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Heard this on my ride into work this morning.. some fit my way of thinking.. others have me going.. damn I am getting old. ;)

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/38733509 

Wear a wristwatch? Use e-mail? Not for Class of '14
Annual list of 75 items that shape incoming freshmen's cultural references released

MILWAUKEE For students entering college this fall, e-mail is too slow, phones have never had cords and the computers they played with as kids are now in museums.

The Class of 2014 thinks of Clint Eastwood more as a sensitive director than as Dirty Harry urging punks to "go ahead, make my day." Few incoming freshmen know how to write in cursive or have ever worn a wristwatch.

These are among the 75 items on this year's Beloit College Mindset List. The compilation, released Tuesday, is assembled each year by two officials at this private school of about 1,400 students in Beloit, Wis.

The list is meant to remind teachers that cultural references familiar to them might draw blank stares from college freshmen born mostly in 1992.

Of course, it can also have the unintended consequence of making people feel old.

Remember when Dr. Jack Kevorkian, Dan Quayle or Rodney King were in the news? These kids don't.

Ever worry about a Russian missile strike on the United States? During these students' lives, Russians and Americans have always been living together in outer space.

Help crafting lesson plans
Being aware of the generation gap helps professors craft lesson plans that are more meaningful, said Ron Nief, a former public affairs director at Beloit College and one of the list's creators.

Nief and English professor Tom McBride have assembled the Mindset List for 13 years. They say it's given them an unusual perspective on cultural shifts.

For example, as item No. 13 on the list says, "Parents and teachers feared that Beavis and Butt-head might be the voice of a lost generation."

With far edgier content available today, such as "South Park" or online videos that push the envelope, there's something quaint about recalling the hand-wringing that the MTV cartoon prompted, Nief said.

"I think we do that with every generation we look back and say, what were we getting so upset about?" he said. "A, kids outgrow it and B, in retrospect we realize it really wasn't that bad."

Another Mindset List item reflects a possible shift in Hollywood attitudes. Item No. 12 notes: "Clint Eastwood is better known as a sensitive director than as Dirty Harry."

A number of incoming freshmen said they partially agreed with the item, noting they were familiar with Eastwood's work as an actor even if they hadn't seen his films.

"I know he directed movies but I also know he's supposed to be sort of bad-ass," said Aaron Ziontz, 18, from Seattle.

Jessica Peck, a 17-year-old from Portland, Ore., disagreed with two items on the list one that says few students know how to write in cursive, and another that suggests this generation seldom if ever uses snail mail.

"Snail mail's kind of fun. When I have time I like writing letters to friends and family," she said. "It's just a bit more personal. And yes, I write in cursive."

'Only at my grandparents' house'
Peck did agree with the item pointing out that most teens have never used telephones with cords.

"Yes, I've used them but only at my grandparents' house," she said.

That's the sort of comment that can make a person feel old. McBride jokes that he's not immune from feeling ancient just because he compiles the items. But the 65-year-old said the lists can also reveal a larger truth about tolerance.

The "Beavis and Butt-head" item suggests that maybe parents shouldn't overreact every time a controversy arises, he noted. For example, maybe it's no big deal if college freshmen misspell words when they text, and maybe their attention spans will be just fine even though they grew up in the Internet age, he said.

"There's something about the resilience of human nature that renders these gloom-and-doom prophesies moot after a while," he said. "I can't say for sure, but it looks like the track record of these very anxious prophets has not been impressive over the years."


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
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The list... for the curious.

http://www.beloit.edu/mindset/2014.php 



Beloit, Wis. Born when Ross Perot was warning about a giant sucking sound and Bill Clinton was apologizing for pain in his marriage, members of this falls entering college class of 2014 have emerged as a post-email generation for whom the digital world is routine and technology is just too slow.

Each August since 1998, Beloit College has released the Beloit College Mindset List. It provides a look at the cultural touchstones that shape the lives of students entering college this fall. The creation of Beloits Keefer Professor of the Humanities Tom McBride and former Public Affairs Director Ron Nief, it was originally created as a reminder to faculty to be aware of dated references, and quickly became a catalog of the rapidly changing worldview of each new generation. The Mindset List website at www.beloit.edu/mindset, the Mediasite webcast and its Facebook page receive more than 400,000 hits annually.

The class of 2014 has never found Korean-made cars unusual on the Interstate and five hundred cable channels, of which they will watch a handful, have always been the norm. Since "digital" has always been in the cultural DNA, they've never written in cursive and with cell phones to tell them the time, there is no need for a wrist watch. Dirty Harry (whos that?) is to them a great Hollywood director. The America they have inherited is one of soaring American trade and budget deficits; Russia has presumably never aimed nukes at the United States and China has always posed an economic threat.

Nonetheless, they plan to enjoy college. The males among them are likely to be a minority. They will be armed with iPhones and BlackBerries, on which making a phone call will be only one of many, many functions they will perform. They will now be awash with a computerized technology that will not distinguish information and knowledge. So it will be up to their professors to help them. A generation accustomed to instant access will need to acquire the patience of scholarship. They will discover how to research information in books and journals and not just on-line. Their professors, who might be tempted to think that they are hip enough and therefore ready and relevant to teach the new generation, might remember that Kurt Cobain is now on the classic oldies station. The college class of 2014 reminds us, once again, that a generation comes and goes in the blink of our eyes, which are, like the rest of us, getting older and older.

The Beloit College Mindset List for the Class of 2014

Most students entering college for the first time this fallthe Class of 2014were born in 1992.

For these students, Benny Hill, Sam Kinison, Sam Walton, Bert Parks and Tony Perkins have always been dead.

1. Few in the class know how to write in cursive.

2. Email is just too slow, and they seldom if ever use snail mail.

3. Go West, Young College Grad has always implied and dont stop until you get to Asiaand learn Chinese along the way.

4. Al Gore has always been animated.

5. Los Angelinos have always been trying to get along.

6. Buffy has always been meeting her obligations to hunt down Lothos and the other blood-suckers at Hemery High.

7. Caramel macchiato and venti half-caf vanilla latte have always been street corner lingo.

8. With increasing numbers of ramps, Braille signs, and handicapped parking spaces, the world has always been trying harder to accommodate people with disabilities.

9. Had it remained operational, the villainous computer HAL could be their college classmate this fall, but they have a better chance of running into Miley Cyruss folks on Parents Weekend.

10. A quarter of the class has at least one immigrant parent, and the immigration debate is not a big priorityunless it involves real aliens from another planet.

11. John McEnroe has never played professional tennis.

12. Clint Eastwood is better known as a sensitive director than as Dirty Harry.

13. Parents and teachers feared that Beavis and Butt-head might be the voice of a lost generation.

14. Doctor Kevorkian has never been licensed to practice medicine.

15. Colorful lapel ribbons have always been worn to indicate support for a cause.

16. Korean cars have always been a staple on American highways.

17. Trading Chocolate the Moose for Patti the Platypus helped build their Beanie Baby collection.

18. Fergie is a pop singer, not a princess.

19. They never twisted the coiled handset wire aimlessly around their wrists while chatting on the phone.

20. DNA fingerprinting and maps of the human genome have always existed.

21. Woody Allen, whose heart has wanted what it wanted, has always been with Soon-Yi Previn.

22. Cross-burning has always been deemed protected speech.

23. Leasing has always allowed the folks to upgrade their tastes in cars.

24. Cop Killer by rapper Ice-T has never been available on a recording.

25. Leno and Letterman have always been trading insults on opposing networks.

26. Unless they found one in their grandparents closet, they have never seen a carousel of Kodachrome slides.

27. Computers have never lacked a CD-ROM disk drive.

28. Theyve never recognized that pointing to their wrists was a request for the time of day.

29. Reggie Jackson has always been enshrined in Cooperstown.

30. Viewer Discretion has always been an available warning on TV shows.

31. The first computer they probably touched was an Apple II; it is now in a museum.

32. Czechoslovakia has never existed.

33. Second-hand smoke has always been an official carcinogen.

34. Assisted Living has always been replacing nursing homes, while Hospice has always been an alternative to hospitals.

35. Once they got through security, going to the airport has always resembled going to the mall.

36. Adhesive strips have always been available in varying skin tones.

37. Whatever their parents may have thought about the year they were born, Queen Elizabeth declared it an Annus Horribilis.

38. Bud Selig has always been the Commissioner of Major League Baseball.

39. Pizza jockeys from Dominos have never killed themselves to get your pizza there in under 30 minutes.

40. There have always been HIV positive athletes in the Olympics.

41. American companies have always done business in Vietnam.

42. Potato has always ended in an e in New Jersey per vice presidential edict.

43. Russians and Americans have always been living together in space.

44. The dominance of television news by the three networks passed while they were still in their cribs.

45. They have always had a chance to do community service with local and federal programs to earn money for college.

46. Nirvana is on the classic oldies station.

47. Children have always been trying to divorce their parents.

48. Someone has always gotten married in space.

49. While they were babbling in strollers, there was already a female Poet Laureate of the United States.

50. Toothpaste tubes have always stood up on their caps.

51. Food has always been irradiated.

52. There have always been women priests in the Anglican Church.

53. J.R. Ewing has always been dead and gone. Hasnt he?

54. The historic bridge at Mostar in Bosnia has always been a copy.

55. Rock bands have always played at presidential inaugural parties.

56. They may have assumed that parents complaints about Black Monday had to do with punk rockers from L.A., not Wall Street.

57. A purple dinosaur has always supplanted Barney Google and Barney Fife.

58. Beethoven has always been a dog.

59. By the time their folks might have noticed Coca Colas new Tab Clear, it was gone.

60. Walmart has never sold handguns over the counter in the lower 48.

61. Presidential appointees have always been required to be more precise about paying their nannies withholding tax, or else.

62. Having hundreds of cable channels but nothing to watch has always been routine.

63. Their parents favorite TV sitcoms have always been showing up as movies.

64. The U.S, Canada, and Mexico have always agreed to trade freely.

65. They first met Michelangelo when he was just a computer virus.

66. Galileo is forgiven and welcome back into the Roman Catholic Church.

67. Ruth Bader Ginsburg has always sat on the Supreme Court.

68. They have never worried about a Russian missile strike on the U.S.

69. The Post Office has always been going broke.

70. The artist formerly known as Snoop Doggy Dogg has always been rapping.

71. The nation has never approved of the job Congress is doing.

72. One way or another, Its the economy, stupid and always has been.

73. Silicone-gel breast implants have always been regulated.

74. Theyve always been able to blast off with the Sci-Fi Channel.

75. Honda has always been a major competitor on Memorial Day at Indianapolis.


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
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13 years ago

"I think we do that with every generation we look back and say, what were we getting so upset about?" he said. "A, kids outgrow it and B, in retrospect we realize it really wasn't that bad."



Heh. I actually think the opposite. I think that generation is too goody goody and not bad enough. They don't know how to really "let loose" and have fun.
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I am of multiple minds about things like the Beloit list.

One the one hand, the teachers need the reminder that the world is changing, and changing faster all the time. You can't reach the students if you don't understand that they're coming from a different place than "when you were in school".

On another hand, this "world has changed" argument is too easily used as an excuse for why learning doesn't take place.

And on a third hand, and this is extremely personal for me given what I teach, it highlights just how important careful attention to how we approach the past remains. When the everyday detail of our lives (technology, cultural institutions, products and services, knowledge) changes as fast as it does, it becomes more important, not less, to think carefully about which changes matter and which do not, about where we should be seeing changes and when we should be seeing continuities for "what is important," about which parts of the past and which parts of the present to look at.

I look at a list like the Beloit list and I see some things that are potentially profound, and some that are certainly trivial, and a lot of things whose degree of importance are not easily determined. And I see a reminder that "learning how to figure out that degree of importance" is what a big part of higher education should be about.

Including all of the classes I teach.
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13 years ago


One the one hand, the teachers need the reminder that the world is changing, and changing faster all the time.

"Wade" wrote:



Not quite.

The world changes in spurts. It changed much faster from 1900-1950 then it did from 1951-2000.

We learned to fly in the early 20th century. There was also the car, which completely changed America and later the rest of the world. Radio and television made the world smaller. We designed a single bomb that can destroy a city.

America's labor changes from 1900-1950 were much, much greater than 1951-2000. The 1900-1950 crowd did all the work, we got the benefits of it and of course took them for granted. Imagine being gunned down by police because you're complaining about work safety where you just watched your best friend get sucked into a machine and killed instantly because you guys were working 12 hour shifts in horrible working conditions.

2nd half of the 20th century pales by comparison. Greatest thing we did was walk on the moon. Other than that - the internet and text messaging? Not that impressive when you compare before.

The industrial revolution was also a bigger change than 1951-2000.

I'm open to what 2000-2050 will bring as only 10 years have happened. So far, nothing really significant.

True that the internet is faster than libraries, but that's the big improvement - information speed.
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I was waiting for Wade, the professor, to respond and break it down..

Obscure lists like this gets one to think outside "their" box.. which IMO is what education basis should be about.. and after going to colleges for over half a decade.. you rarely bump into a professor that gets "it".

Wade IMO, could be one that would indeed be a treat to attend a class.
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13 years ago
Agreed Pack. I'd love to attend a Wade lecture. A high percentage of Profs are ivory tower. Wade "gets it."
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I hate to admit this, since I love the props, but based on evals I don't think my students agree. Some do, but not the majority.
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Yes... I am guessing 40 year old students are not in the majority.. lol
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I definitely agree that most profs don't get "it," though.

I sometimes wonder if the best we can hope for from the big chunk of college faculties is their recognition that they don't and that it matters that they don't.

An awful lot of academics are doubly in denial: They deny that they don't get it. And they deny that getting it matters.

I'm not sure I agree about the relative unimportance of changes since 1950, zombie.

Yes, they tend to be primarily information-centered. And without the enabling that 1750-1950 offered, they wouldn't have had the shoulders of giants required to build upon.

But arguably the real revolution of 1750-1950 was not technology or resources/labor, it was knowledge and knowledge use. (Check out the work of Joel Mokyr sometime, especially his Gifts of Athena.) And arguably the changes of PC/Internet/Netscape/Google/cloud computing have been even more transforming.

Or perhaps the story lies somewhere else entirely. Which is why this term my students are going to look at something very different. I've always focused on technology and some other traditional topics (e.g. myths about the economics of slavery and imperialism). But I'm going well outside my comfort zone this term. -- We'll start with Thomas Friedman's World if Flat...then move backward. Still do the Industrial Revolution, but in large part as a way of connecting the "after" of today to the "before" history of trade and globalization between 1000 and 1750 A.D.

I'm really excited about the class, but I keep telling myself to be careful. I was really excited about the way I had the class set up last fall, too, and I laid an [strike]ostrich[/strike]dinosaur-sized egg.
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