texaspackerbacker
10 years ago
There's a lot of truth to the idea that the Packers defense stunk that day, and it needed some criticism from within. However, Kaepernick seemed damn good - a significant level above Griffin, Wilson, etc. in terms of speed and durability, while being at least as good a passer. We need to stop him first, before putting him down.
Expressing the Good Normal Views of Good Normal Americans.
If Anything I Say Smacks of Extremism, Please Tell Me EXACTLY What.
Rockmolder
10 years ago
That doesn't come like a big surprise when you're letting a QB run over you for the single-game QB rushing record.

You'd like to think that that's a point where a player like Woodson comes in and settles things down, though. Might've factored in in not taking him back. When you're on the decline like he is, your leadership skills, intangibles and savvyness get you through the game.

Although it's very bad, I don't you can read that much into it. When you have a defense with one of the best OLBs, a future HoF DB and a lot of guys who where with us when we had one of the better defenses for a short period of time not too long ago, coupled with a complete trashing after a 11-4 regular season, which came a year after the beatdown against the Giants after a 15-1 season, there's really all too much reason to get frustrated.

Might not be the best way to handle it, but it's at least somewhat understandable.
DarkaneRules
10 years ago
While I totally expect that, to be so glib about it kind of smacks of arrogance. Keep it in house. Other position groups can be a little more vocal about this stuff but usually QBs have to maintain more composure discussing things like this, but then again, his coach certainly doesn't so why should he. Starts at the top and that coach leads by an example of being loud and brash... about everything.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
+1
DoddPower
10 years ago

That doesn't come like a big surprise when you're letting a QB run over you for the single-game QB rushing record.

You'd like to think that that's a point where a player like Woodson comes in and settles things down, though. Might've factored in in not taking him back. When you're on the decline like he is, your leadership skills, intangibles and savvyness get you through the game.

Although it's very bad, I don't you can read that much into it. When you have a defense with one of the best OLBs, a future HoF DB and a lot of guys who where with us when we had one of the better defenses for a short period of time not too long ago, coupled with a complete trashing after a 11-4 regular season, which came a year after the beatdown against the Giants after a 15-1 season, there's really all too much reason to get frustrated.

Might not be the best way to handle it, but it's at least somewhat understandable.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 



The Packers defense could use more leadership, for sure.

dhpackr
10 years ago

The Packers defense could use more leadership, for sure.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



I don't get why didn't capers change the scheme and put a spy on Kaepernick in the second half.? Weran the same scheme the entire game, and it was not working.

So if you meet me Have some courtesy, Have some sympathy, and some taste
Use all your well-learned politesse, Or I'll lay your soul to waste
DoddPower
10 years ago

I don't get why didn't capers change the scheme and put a spy on Kaepernick in the second half.? Weran the same scheme the entire game, and it was not working.

Originally Posted by: dhpackr 



I don't know, I've read that Dom Capers tried everything at his disposal. That does seem hard to believe, but it's probably true. It was just a combination of poor preparation, coaching, and a relative lack of talent on defense. I would have to think that a good defensive coordinator could have at least contained their offense a little better, and we saw that at times throughout the rest of the playoffs. The Baltimore defense was more talented, but were they truly THAT much more talented than the Packers, especially after losing Ngata? If nothing else, they were as slow, or slower, than the Packers defense. They were undoubtedly tougher and had better leadership, though, so maybe that made all the difference. Although, the 49'ers did seem to move the ball on offense very well in the 2nd half of the Super Bowl.
dhpackr
10 years ago
[quote=DoddPower;251386 They were undoubtedly tougher and had better leadership, though, so maybe that made all the difference.



since we lost nick collins, not sure who the qb for the defense is?
So if you meet me Have some courtesy, Have some sympathy, and some taste
Use all your well-learned politesse, Or I'll lay your soul to waste
steveishere
10 years ago

I don't know, I've read that Dom Capers tried everything at his disposal. That does seem hard to believe, but it's probably true. It was just a combination of poor preparation, coaching, and a relative lack of talent on defense. I would have to think that a good defensive coordinator could have at least contained their offense a little better, and we saw that at times throughout the rest of the playoffs. The Baltimore defense was more talented, but were they truly THAT much more talented than the Packers, especially after losing Ngata? If nothing else, they were as slow, or slower, than the Packers defense. They were undoubtedly tougher and had better leadership, though, so maybe that made all the difference. Although, the 49'ers did seem to move the ball on offense very well in the 2nd half of the Super Bowl.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



I would have to thin that a good defensive coordinator wouldn't have been that horribly unprepared for a playoff game to begin with.
+1
DarkaneRules
10 years ago
With Kap and even Rodgers, keeping contain is CRITICAL. We didn't do that.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
blueleopard
10 years ago
We did have a spy on Kaepernick.

Unfortunately it was Erik Walden.
Danreb Victorio A Believer of Greg Jennings
+2
Similar Topics
Users browsing this topic
    Fan Shout
    Martha Careful (13h) : 1. this is true of all our linemen. 2. His run block is fine. 3. If all OL played like he has, we would win SB.
    beast (14h) : Meyers pass blocking is really good, his run blocking is really not.
    Zero2Cool (9-May) : Packers have claimed DE Spencer Waege off of waivers from the 49ers and waived DT Rodney Mathews.
    Zero2Cool (9-May) : And the OL protections seem to be good.
    Zero2Cool (9-May) : I really don't know lol. I don't see him getting blown up.
    Zero2Cool (9-May) : -3 buwahhhahaaha
    Mucky Tundra (9-May) : 4th
    Zero2Cool (9-May) : because he's 1st
    Mucky Tundra (9-May) : Myers isn't even the 3rd best C on the roster atm
    Martha Careful (9-May) : I am not sure I understand the Myers hate. He was consistently our third best lineman. RG and LT were worse.
    beast (9-May) : Just saying I don't think moving Myers would help Myers.
    beast (9-May) : Center is usually considered the easiest position physically if you can handle the snap stuff.
    Mucky Tundra (8-May) : Bust it is then
    Zero2Cool (8-May) : Context. Sounds like Myers won't be cross-trained. C or bust.
    Mucky Tundra (8-May) : @BookOfEli_NFL Packers pass game coordinator, Jason Vrable said that Jayden Reed and Dontayvion Wicks shared a placed in Florida while train
    Mucky Tundra (8-May) : For now...
    Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers go about evaluating their "best five," OL coach Luke Butkus makes on thing clear: "Josh Myers is our center."
    beast (8-May) : Though I'm a bit surprised letting go of CBs, I thought we needed more not less
    beast (8-May) : It was confusing with two DB Anthony Johnson anyways
    Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers actually had Ray Lewis on the phone.
    Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers wanted to draft Ray Lewis. Ravens stole him.
    Martha Careful (6-May) : Happy 93rd Birthday to the Greatest Baseball Player of All-Time...Willie Mays
    Zero2Cool (6-May) : Walter Stanely's son
    buckeyepackfan (6-May) : and released CB Anthony Johnson and DL Deandre Johnson and waived/injured WR Thyrick Pitts (thigh-rick).
    buckeyepackfan (6-May) : The Green Bay Packers have signed WR Julian Hicks, OL Lecitus Smith (luh-SEET-us) and WR Dimitri Stanley
    Zero2Cool (6-May) : Petty, but it's annoying me how the NFL is making the schedule release an event.
    Mucky Tundra (4-May) : @mattschneidman Matt LaFleur on how he tore his pec: “Got in a fight with the bench press. I lost.”
    Zero2Cool (3-May) : Jordan Love CAN sign an extension as of today. Might tak weeks/months though
    TheKanataThrilla (3-May) : Packers decline 5th year option for Stokes
    Mucky Tundra (3-May) : @ProFootballTalk Jaylen Warren: Steelers' special teams coach has discussed Justin Fields returning kicks.
    Zero2Cool (2-May) : Season officially ending tonight for Bucks ... sad face
    Zero2Cool (2-May) : Giannis Antetokounmpo is listed as out for tonight's game.
    dfosterf (2-May) : Surprisingly low initially is my guess cap wise, but gonna pay the piper after that
    dfosterf (2-May) : The number on Love is going to be brutal.
    Zero2Cool (2-May) : May 3rd. Extension day for Jordan Love. (soonest)
    Zero2Cool (1-May) : USFL MVP QB Alex McGough moved to WR. So that's why no WR drafted!
    earthquake (1-May) : Packers draft starters at safety ever few years. Collins, Clinton-Dix, Savage
    beast (1-May) : Why can't the rookies be a day 1 starter? Especially when we grabbed 3 of them at the position
    dfosterf (1-May) : Not going to be shocked if Gilmore goes to the Lions.
    dfosterf (1-May) : I hear you dhazer, but my guess would be Gilmore Colts and Howard Vikings from what little has been reported.
    Mucky Tundra (30-Apr) : S learn from McKinney who learns from Hafley who learns from the fans. Guaranteed Super Bowl
    Zero2Cool (30-Apr) : could*
    Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : Safeties should learn from Xavier.
    dhazer (29-Apr) : And what about grabbing a Gilmore or Howard at CB ? Those are all Free Agents left
    dhazer (29-Apr) : out of curiosity do they try and sign Simmons or Hyde to let these young safeties learn from, they can't be day 1 starters.
    Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : I miss having Sam Shields.
    Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : Not that he's making excuses, just pointing it out
    Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : That's for dang sure. Make our erratic kicker have no excuse!
    packerfanoutwest (28-Apr) : having a great long snapper is gold
    Zero2Cool (28-Apr) : LaFleur looking like he had some weight. Coachin will do that lol
    Please sign in to use Fan Shout
    2023 Packers Schedule
    Sunday, Sep 10 @ 3:25 PM
    Bears
    38 - 20
    Sunday, Sep 17 @ 12:00 PM
    Falcons
    24 - 25
    Sunday, Sep 24 @ 12:00 PM
    SAINTS
    18 - 17
    Thursday, Sep 28 @ 7:15 PM
    LIONS
    20 - 34
    Monday, Oct 9 @ 7:15 PM
    Raiders
    13 - 17
    Sunday, Oct 22 @ 3:25 PM
    Broncos
    17 - 19
    Sunday, Oct 29 @ 12:00 PM
    VIKINGS
    10 - 24
    Sunday, Nov 5 @ 12:00 PM
    RAMS
    20 - 3
    Sunday, Nov 12 @ 12:00 PM
    Steelers
    19 - 23
    Sunday, Nov 19 @ 12:00 PM
    CHARGERS
    23 - 20
    Thursday, Nov 23 @ 11:30 AM
    Lions
    29 - 22
    Sunday, Dec 3 @ 7:20 PM
    CHIEFS
    27 - 19
    Monday, Dec 11 @ 7:15 PM
    Giants
    22 - 24
    Sunday, Dec 17 @ 12:00 PM
    BUCCANEERS
    20 - 34
    Sunday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
    Panthers
    33 - 30
    Sunday, Dec 31 @ 7:20 PM
    Vikings
    33 - 10
    Sunday, Jan 7 @ 3:25 PM
    BEARS
    17 - 9
    Sunday, Jan 14 @ 3:30 PM
    Cowboys
    48 - 32
    Saturday, Jan 20 @ 7:15 PM
    49ers
    21 - 24
    Recent Topics
    1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / dhazer

    14h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    22h / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

    10-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    9-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    7-May / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

    7-May / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

    5-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

    5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

    5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

    5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

    5-May / Packers Draft Threads / beast

    5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

    5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

    5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

    Headlines