Zero2Cool
2 months ago
I've been sidelined the last week or so for multiple reasons. I won't go into the personal reasons because it's been proven this place isn't a safe place for me. And frankly I don't really feel like being mocked again. I'll just say that I think we should all try to remember every single one of us (yes, even you) are fight a battle that NONE of us have any clue about. 

The other reasons are the whole Aaron Rodgers leaving Packers thing is exhausting. Rather, I should say, I allowed it to exhaust me. I'm in an enviable position where my current job is going through a super slow period and thus leaving me with a lot of open time. I've been filling that time learning new skills for my career and also reading and listening to nearly everything Packers on the internet. I always have tried going to the source to hear word for word what they've said and interpret the tone. e.g. Aaron Rodgers often times comes off like a prick the way he engages with reporters, however, he has a personal relationship with many of them. We are actually seeing inside joking that comes off as arrogance to us. This leads to a problem we fans have. We (sometimes) forget these athletes are people and have lives that are not recorded by video and made available for worldwide consumption.

Over the last several weeks I got into a few back-and-forth with some reporters on the Tweeter. I'll say I was aiming for accuracy, however, I know my disdain for the media is as obvious as an elephant in a living room.  It was amusing at times, especially when these reporters have no other recourse than to block you because eyes have been opened to the dispensing of false information, or at least, partial facts anyway.

Eventually, it got to a point where I started asking myself, am I making a difference? Does anyone really care about facts/accuracy? Does anyone really care about the truth? Am I doing this to help others, or am I doing this selfishly for myself as some "know it all" pompous ass? Ultimately, I felt like I was using a gallon pale trying to save the Titanic two hours after it hit the iceberg while no one cares. So many just want to sit on their lazy as and BE ENTERTAINED rather than finding something useful to do with their time. You can say this is where the pot met the kettle.

It sure seems more than ever we collectively dismiss the cart as bad because of one squeaky wheel rather than appreciating the three that are silently working solid. That saddens me. Such is life though. You can only control what you can control.
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2 months ago
"Carry on my wayward son
There'll be peace when you are done
Lay your weary head to rest
Don't you cry no more"
Kerry Livgren- Kansas

It kinda works until the last line.
I'm glad you got a chance to vent a little. Most people say that they want the truth but in reality they want what they perceive to be the truth.

As far as AR12 is concerned, I read and listen to very little of it. There's nothing new to say and only about 5 people in the world know the whole story but that doesn't stop people from talking about it as if they are in the know.
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beast
2 months ago
Sorry I'm an asshole sometimes, this place should be a safe place.

I hope you feel better soon.
buckeyepackfan
2 months ago
Social Media, FB,Twitter....ect
To me anymore is just a bunch of trolls that only care about their opinions,  you don't agree with them,  you will be attacked.

I blocked 5 so called Packer websites after I realized they were only interested in "clicks" over any real substance.

That's why this place has evolved into something special,  members can come here and express their opinions without being attacked.
There will always be differences in opinions, but that's not a bad thing.

As long as everyone realizes I sm always right, I have no problem!!!!!😃😃😃

 
I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
2 months ago
Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

 Does anyone really care about the truth?

Quid est veritas?

What is true is that this site is very cathartic for many of us and you are blessing.

 
go.pack.go.
2 months ago
I really enjoy this site. Thank you for all the hard work you have put into it. I don’t always post a lot, but generally I am on here reading everyone’s comments a couple times per day when I get a spare moment. I am very thankful to have a place to come talk with fellow Packer fans about what’s going on with the team. I live in VA and have no other Packer fan friends in “real life”.
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2 months ago
Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 

Social Media, FB,Twitter....ect
To me anymore is just a bunch of trolls that only care about their opinions,  you don't agree with them,  you will be attacked.

I blocked 5 so called Packer websites after I realized they were only interested in "clicks" over any real substance.

That's why this place has evolved into something special,  members can come here and express their opinions without being attacked.
There will always be differences in opinions, but that's not a bad thing.

As long as everyone realizes I sm always right, I have no problem!!!!!😃😃😃

 


You spelled "am" wrong. Just saying. 🤪
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Zero2Cool
2 months ago
Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 

I really enjoy this site. Thank you for all the hard work you have put into it. I don’t always post a lot, but generally I am on here reading everyone’s comments a couple times per day when I get a spare moment. I am very thankful to have a place to come talk with fellow Packer fans about what’s going on with the team. I live in VA and have no other Packer fan friends in “real life”.

Thank you.

I find most enjoyment reading other people debating and talking to one another here. I liken it to watching your kid play around having a good time. It's a similar enjoyment/feeling for me.

It really gets to me at times I haven't provided a better "user" experience website though. I know I can, but every time I get into rebuilding the site, I get distracted by something, or I simply think about 30 different things to add on. I really need to just focus one weekend on a Minimum Viable Product, build that, get it out and then just add features to it. 
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2 months ago
Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Thank you.

I find most enjoyment reading other people debating and talking to one another here. I liken it to watching your kid play around having a good time. It's a similar enjoyment/feeling for me.

It really gets to me at times I haven't provided a better "user" experience website though. I know I can, but every time I get into rebuilding the site, I get distracted by something, or I simply think about 30 different things to add on. I really need to just focus one weekend on a Minimum Viable Product, build that, get it out and then just add features to it. 


The website is fine. Spend the weekend with your family.
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Zero2Cool
2 months ago
Originally Posted by: wpr 

The website is fine. Spend the weekend with your family.

I only have my daughter 50/50, so I have every other weekend "open". 😁
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2 months ago
Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

I only have my daughter 50/50, so I have every other weekend "open". 😁


Don't you have a grandchild too?
*Weekend full*
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go.pack.go. (1h) : No more tree of course
go.pack.go. (1h) : Tree removal is very expensive, and yes tree companies should remove the tree from your property all together and leave your place looking as if they weren’t even there. Except for there being no more
Zero2Cool (3h) : I wasn't expecting it to be cheap. I was thinking the three in front maybe ~1,500 but i could buy a stump grinder for that.
dfosterf (3h) : It's not going to be cheap. Certified arborists make good money. You cannot do A or E without one. If D fell on the house it looks like it would be no big deal, but the picture might be fooling me.
Zero2Cool (3h) : I have a feeling these trees being removed gonna cost me lot more than I was bargaining
Zero2Cool (3h) : I haven't had much issue ever will drills. I have a pretty firm grip. BUT I also haven't had a chainsaw in my hand while trying to balance on a ladder
Zero2Cool (3h) : Hmm, maybe I just use my sawsall to cut it down. I'll be back in four months.
dfosterf (3h) : Ever had a drill get stuck in the work and twist your hand? Exact same speed as a chainsaw kickback. I don't think even batman dodges that.
Zero2Cool (3h) : WTF is the dark knight doing cutting down dudes trees!!!!
Zero2Cool (3h) : Not a worry, I'll wear my Batman suit!! Imagine the photos!!
dfosterf (3h) : Oh oh, lol Chainsaw accidents average 80 stitches in the emergency room according to the US Forest service. 🤣
Zero2Cool (3h) : holy crap, you can rent a 35 ft lift for $300 for a whole day??
Zero2Cool (4h) : I'll post pictures. One of them is probably 50 feet tall
dfosterf (4h) : I'm sure when he gets his estimates they will render opinions on his plan
dfosterf (4h) : Or dumped, depending on the truck
dfosterf (4h) : Thing is, if he's hiring a tree service, my guess is we are talking some big trees. That shit usually gets craned on and off the chipper shredder truck.
beast (4h) : That's why some wooden ramps can be nice. And heck, you got the wood with the tree. Turn it into a ramp, wheel barrow the rest onto the truck 😋
dfosterf (4h) : I don't know the diameters you'd be dealing with, but tree sections are almost invariably a hell of a lot heavier than they look
Zero2Cool (4h) : Eh, that's not right. It's more like three an half feet. Still sucks loading things into it.
Zero2Cool (5h) : Damn tailgate is almost four feet above ground.
Zero2Cool (5h) : Considering there's no way in hell I can lift something much longer into my damn truck, shouldn't be problem!
Zero2Cool (5h) : Wood must be cut to 4-foot sections to be accepted at the Waste Transfer Station.
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Zero2Cool (5h) : Basically cost of cutting tree x,y and z individually, and cost of stump grinding per tree and clean up haha
Zero2Cool (5h) : I have stump grinding listed too as question. I feel kinda bad cuz I got like five quotes I want haha
dfosterf (5h) : Don't forget about the stump. That you can diy, but stump grinders are expensive to rent. They are a bit of a beast to operate, too.
Zero2Cool (5h) : Ugh. I'm so damn ignorant on this stuff!! Thanks for the heads up.
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dfosterf (7h) : Kidding aside, you sure they aren't coming back for it? Maybe went to get the chipper shredder?
dfosterf (7h) : Unless you hired the tree cut down and left company, which we don't have in our yellow pages 🙃
dfosterf (7h) : Well, it's called tree removal, so you'd think removal would at least be part of the conversation 😉
Zero2Cool (7h) : Looks like there's a public works spot near me that I can just dump it at. That might save me a few bucks
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