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Offline nerdmann  
#1 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 3:56:52 PM(UTC)
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All week long, rookie Don Barclay. who replaced Lang after he got hurt last week against Minnesota, trained at right tackle and would be more than ready to start. So Lang could be designated for play only if an injury occurs.

But let's assume that Lang is available for full-time duty. Do you put him at right tackle or do you return him to his natural left guard position knowing you've got Barclay ready to go?

Barclay is a solid run blocker and with snow falling as we speak, it might be better to have your best run-blocking unit in the game, which would be Lang at guard and Barclay at tackle. It would mean putting Evan Dietrich-Smith on the bench or moving him into the center position if veteran Jeff Saturday (foot) is struggling with his injury.


I think they'll sit Lang and have him ready for emergency duty.

But if he did start, I'd put him at G, especially considering the weather. Barclay's gonna spring our RBs in the storm, just like he did last week.
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#2 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 4:33:44 PM(UTC)
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agree Lang sits for a week. If he were to start I would say put him at his natural position G and if barclay had trouble slid Lang over and put EDS in the game.
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#3 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 4:37:28 PM(UTC)
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Next year I want Lang to be our starting center.

LT - Newhouse
LG - Bulaga
C - Lang
RG - Sitton
RT - Barclay

Sherrod gets every opportunity to unseat Newhouse. Bulaga blew whales at RT this year.

But for the rest of the season, I'd really like to see Lang back at RG and EDS at center with Barclay playing RT.
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#4 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 4:44:57 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
Next year I want Lang to be our starting center.

LT - Newhouse
LG - Bulaga
C - Lang
RG - Sitton
RT - Barclay

Sherrod gets every opportunity to unseat Newhouse. Bulaga blew whales at RT this year.

But for the rest of the season, I'd really like to see Lang back at RG and EDS at center with Barclay playing RT.


LT- Sherrod
LG- Newhouse
C- Lang
RG- Sitton
RT- Bulaga

Marshall Newhouse was drafted as a G which is why I plugged him into that spot. And if Sherrod goes down, I think it's less difficult for a LG to slide to LT than moving a LG to RT if Barclay were to go down.
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#5 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 4:56:12 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
LT- Sherrod
LG- Newhouse
C- Lang
RG- Sitton
RT- Bulaga

Marshall Newhouse was drafted as a G which is why I plugged him into that spot. And if Sherrod goes down, I think it's less difficult for a LG to slide to LT than moving a LG to RT if Barclay were to go down.


Maybe give Bulaga a shot at LT next year. All I know is that I liked what I saw with Barclay to RT last week, so give him the rest of the year to prove himself. We're kind of SOL this year anyway, but we'll ride this line for as long as far as they take us.
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#6 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 5:02:07 PM(UTC)
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I'll worry about the starting 2013 OL next year.
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#7 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 5:08:52 PM(UTC)
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LT- Sherrod
LG- Barclay
C- Lang
RG- Sitton
RT- Bulaga

Newhouse is the backup swing T.
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#8 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 5:13:12 PM(UTC)
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I'll worry about the starting 2013 OL next year.


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#9 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 5:14:41 PM(UTC)
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Well that's why you're not in the Dojo of Coolness. You can't handle both. Big Grin



true. but my old minster also taught me not to borrow from tomorrow's troubles.
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#10 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 5:18:46 PM(UTC)
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true. but my old minster also taught me not to borrow from tomorrow's troubles.


I tried not to learn anything from my religious teachers, be then again, I am Catholic.
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#11 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 5:32:51 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
Maybe give Bulaga a shot at LT next year. All I know is that I liked what I saw with Barclay to RT last week, so give him the rest of the year to prove himself. We're kind of SOL this year anyway, but we'll ride this line for as long as far as they take us.


Howie Long among others were saying Bryan Bulaga was the best RT this season. Not sure if I'd want to mess with that.
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#12 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 5:32:59 PM(UTC)
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I tried not to learn anything from my religious teachers, be then again, I am Catholic.


I use to be then I turned 18 and could walk away without my parents stopping me.
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#13 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 5:36:25 PM(UTC)
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Howie Long among others were saying Bryan Bulaga was the best RT this season. Not sure if I'd want to mess with that.


Howie was hit in the head too many times. Did they actually watch Bryan agains the Seahags?
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#14 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 5:42:32 PM(UTC)
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I think Lang will be left inside from here on out this season.. don't displace more than one piece. Leave Barclay or pull up Datko for the right tackle and give them help. One spot to provide help beats two.

Next season.. replace Campen and leave this unit be for the most part.. a solid oline coach will get the talent we have out each week.

LG - Lang
C - Drafted Rookie - Veteran FA with gas left in the tank.
RG - Sitton
RT - A healthy Bulaga
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#15 Posted : Sunday, December 9, 2012 9:23:28 PM(UTC)
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Well I didn't hear Cliff Avrils name called all night. Barclay at RT for the rest of the season and Lang back to Guard. Only question is does EDS take over for Saturday at center. I doubt they make that change.
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#16 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 8:58:53 AM(UTC)
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Barclay has looked more than serviceable at RT. Haven't seen him get bulled over, and with the outside rush he seems to move well enough that he is able to force them deeper than Rodgers drop in the pocket which is all you really want. Biggest thing though is he and Sitton seem to work well together in run blocking. I'd be more than willing with what he has shown, to give him the shot for RT for the remainder of the season.

Lang, move him back to LG. He was playing pretty well there, the question then is, what to do at C. Saturday just doesn't seem to have it, he gets over powered, doesn't get enough push and is lacking speed. For passing the front of the pocket needs to hold up or Rodgers can't step up and throw. If we expect Saturday to hold his position alone, we lose. He always needs help from one of the G's around him which put extra pressure on our Tackles. I would like to see D-Smith have a shot at C.
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#17 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 9:20:09 AM(UTC)
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Can't say much about our line next year but Lang is not a tackle. The reason Barclay looks better is because he is better at the position. Lang should stay inside at guard where he's turning into a real quality player. Moving him outside is just going to slow his progress at LG where he could become a pro-bowl caliber starter at some point. His future is there.

The problem is lack of depth at tackle. Sherrod's injury really screwed us. I think Ted Thompson and company thought that Sherrod would be ready to play some time this year so we stashed him on PUP and went in with a contingency plan of Lang at RT and EDS at LG. Unfortunately, we lost both our starting RT and then lost our contingency plan at RT. On top of that, Sherrod did not heal as expect. Barclay is what we got and he's more natural at T than Lang was (not a knock on Lang).
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#18 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 9:24:34 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins Go to Quoted Post
Lang, move him back to LG. He was playing pretty well there, the question then is, what to do at C. Saturday just doesn't seem to have it, he gets over powered, doesn't get enough push and is lacking speed. For passing the front of the pocket needs to hold up or Rodgers can't step up and throw. If we expect Saturday to hold his position alone, we lose. He always needs help from one of the G's around him which put extra pressure on our Tackles. I would like to see D-Smith have a shot at C.


I think EDS will be in competition for the starting center position next year. He will probably be up against a rookie or two. Saturday is most likely for this year only (unless we really need him next year). He's a stopgap to give EDS another year to learn and let us build some more depth at the position in the draft next year.
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#19 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 11:09:13 AM(UTC)
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I really hope we get a new center. Hopefully EDS can be that moving forward while continuing to develop. Saturday has been serviceable.

Lang should go back to LG and Barclay remain at RT.

To me, this year really exposed our tackles. Bulaga is out so not much to say on him right now, but in my opinion, Newhouse has just been embarrassing. He routinely just gets blown up and Rodgers rarely tries going outside that direction now. Last night he got pushed and flew backwards. It is pretty sad seeing how bad he gets tossed around by the top rushers. He is a liability.

We have to do so more creative things to make up for this. Really liked that running play where EDS crossed over to fill a gap. We need more plays like that to keep drives alive.

O line is a huge ? going into the playoffs.
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#20 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 1:20:46 PM(UTC)
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Is Saturday really that bad? because I see EDS getting beat more than him...
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#21 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 1:52:37 PM(UTC)
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Is Saturday really that bad? because I see EDS getting beat more than him...


There is just so much a cerebral player can overcome when dealing with physically superior talent. No one is saying Saturday is a bad player, he is just physically outmatched out there or what I call light in the ass. There was a time though that he was the best in the business. Having EDS next to him instead of Lang just exposes this problem more.
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#22 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 2:24:40 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
There is just so much a cerebral player can overcome when dealing with physically superior talent. No one is saying Saturday is a bad player, he is just physically outmatched out there or what I call light in the ass. There was a time though that he was the best in the business. Having EDS next to him instead of Lang just exposes this problem more.


Yeah, Saturday's just on the downside of his career.

For some reason the coaches think EDS has yet to hit his peak. lol
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#23 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 4:11:02 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
Howie was hit in the head too many times. Did they actually watch Bryan agains the Seahags?


Personally don't think it is fair to use that game as a judgement on Bulaga's play as our entire offensive line sucked it up and the gameplan made it simple for the Seachickens to pin their ears back and not worry about the run. Bulaga has been a very consistent lineman for us and I still think he would be the better LT over Sherrod and Newhouse but is a much better duo with Sitton.

I think that is another thing some may overlook. How much does the RT benefit from the great play of Sitton?

Next year I'd roll with:
LT- Winner of Sherrod/Newhouse competition
LG- Lang
C- EDS
RG- Sitton
RT- Bulaga

And while we are on the topic of offensive line (we should just have one giant thread for any offensive line talk since so little of the PH population contributes to it Smile ), this name needs to be put on the back of a Packers jersey next year. I will hope and pray every night that this guy is the highest on TT's draft board.

BARRETT JONES

This guy is a complete monster playing for Alabama. Starts his career at right guard as a redshirt freshmen and earns Freshmen All-American honors. His junior season he switches from guard to left tackle, was first-team All-SEC selection and wins the 2011 Outland Trophy (given to best o-lineman in college football). Now in his senior year because of injuries again, he switches from left tackle to center and wins the 2012 Remington Trophy (given to college football's best center).

Talk about a resumé. Plug him where you feel like on our offensive line. He has played and received high awards for both positions I think we are in need of (Sherrod is one big giant ?).
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#24 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 4:17:57 PM(UTC)
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Personally don't think it is fair to use that game as a judgement on Bulaga's play as our entire offensive line sucked it up and the gameplan made it simple for the Seachickens to pin their ears back and not worry about the run. Bulaga has been a very consistent lineman for us and I still think he would be the better LT over Sherrod and Newhouse but is a much better duo with Sitton.

I think that is another thing some may overlook. How much does the RT benefit from the great play of Sitton?

Next year I'd roll with:
LT- Winner of Sherrod/Newhouse competition
LG- Lang
C- EDS
RG- Sitton
RT- Bulaga

And while we are on the topic of offensive line (we should just have one giant thread for any offensive line talk since so little of the PH population contributes to it Smile ), this name needs to be put on the back of a Packers jersey next year. I will hope and pray every night that this guy is the highest on TT's draft board.

BARRETT JONES

This guy is a complete monster playing for Alabama. Starts his career at right guard as a redshirt freshmen and earns Freshmen All-American honors. His junior season he switches from guard to left tackle, was first-team All-SEC selection and wins the 2011 Outland Trophy (given to best o-lineman in college football). Now in his senior year because of injuries again, he switches from left tackle to center and wins the 2012 Remington Trophy (given to college football's best center).

Talk about a resumé. Plug him where you feel like on our offensive line. He has played and received high awards for both positions I think we are in need of (Sherrod is one big giant ?).


Sounds like a top 15 pick to me, and we won't get a sniff. I would love to see a high pick on an interior lineman though.
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#25 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 4:40:43 PM(UTC)
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Sounds like a top 15 pick to me, and we won't get a sniff. I would love to see a high pick on an interior lineman though.


I know. I always have my "dream player" each year and since I saw some talking about the draft, I thought I'd insert his name into the talks. Offensive line should be our #1 pick this year...
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