Wade
  • Wade
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15 years ago

After Bush, I'm not sure how some can be against Obama.

Ignorance ... gotta love it.

"dhazer" wrote:




that's like going from Rex Grossman to Kyle Orton neither one is very good. So whats your point?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



More like from Rich Campbell to Ryan Leaf.
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago
Obama haters are just redneck racists. Get over it!











lmao that should stir the pop!!

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DakotaT
15 years ago

Obama haters are just redneck racists. Get over it!



lmao that should stir the pop!!

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Are you calling the viewers of Fox racist rednecks? I like to watch the Factor and then immediately go watch Bill Maher on HBO and get totally different perspectives on the same issue. I poke fun of whoever takes either show's idealisms as gospel.
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Formo
15 years ago

Obama haters are just redneck racists. Get over it!











lmao that should stir the pop!!

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Stir the pop? You mean pot, right? 😃
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Wade
  • Wade
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15 years ago
What's the difference between a bottle of vintage port and one of the major networks (Fox, CNN, etc)?

A vintage port is worth waiting for, since you know it's going to be a sublime experience. A news network -- well, you might as well spend your time drinking cheap port in the meantime, since you're never going to get anything of value from the networks no matter how long you wait.
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
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Wade
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15 years ago
Oh, yes, and, I know I'm weird, but the fact that Obama is not the first to skip out on the Tomb of the Unkonwn says more about the general quality (or lack thereof) of recent American presidents than it does excuse Obama's not going.

Several have asked whether the Arlington appearance is different from the appearance at some other Memorial Day activity. It's not Arlington that's different, it's the Tomb of the Unknown.

IMNSHO, the Tomb of the Unknown is a different kind of memorial. One that highlights a willingness to serve despite one's anonymity to those being served. When I go to a Memorial Day or similar celebration in my home town, the vets marching in the parade are personally connected to me. So are the people in the cemeteries. I may not know them myself, but my parents or my cousins do. Or I may know their widows or their cousins. At the very least, I'm going to recognize most of their names or recall seeing someone with that name on the street.

But those at the Tomb of the Unknown don't have that connection. No one knows who they were. We only know that they served, they protected, and they died. When a public official goes to the Tomb of Unknown, he or she is making a different statement than merely making another meet-and-greet with little plastic flags and limp handshakes.

And when he fails to make an appearance, he's also making a statement.

The wrong kind.
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
Formo
15 years ago

Oh, yes, and, I know I'm weird, but the fact that Obama is not the first to skip out on the Tomb of the Unkonwn says more about the general quality (or lack thereof) of recent American presidents than it does excuse Obama's not going.

Several have asked whether the Arlington appearance is different from the appearance at some other Memorial Day activity. It's not Arlington that's different, it's the Tomb of the Unknown.

IMNSHO, the Tomb of the Unknown is a different kind of memorial. One that highlights a willingness to serve despite one's anonymity to those being served. When I go to a Memorial Day or similar celebration in my home town, the vets marching in the parade are personally connected to me. So are the people in the cemeteries. I may not know them myself, but my parents or my cousins do. Or I may know their widows or their cousins. At the very least, I'm going to recognize most of their names or recall seeing someone with that name on the street.

But those at the Tomb of the Unknown don't have that connection. No one knows who they were. We only know that they served, they protected, and they died. When a public official goes to the Tomb of Unknown, he or she is making a different statement than merely making another meet-and-greet with little plastic flags and limp handshakes.

And when he fails to make an appearance, he's also making a statement.

The wrong kind.

"Wade" wrote:



Great post, Wade.

+1 million if it were possible.

I can't wait for the day my wife and I get the honor of going to DC and visiting Arlington and all the other memorials. Will be a very hard but touching experience.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago
Did Obama go last year?
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porky88
15 years ago

Did Obama go last year?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



I was wondering this myself so I looked it up. He in fact did.
porky88
15 years ago

Oh, yes, and, I know I'm weird, but the fact that Obama is not the first to skip out on the Tomb of the Unkonwn says more about the general quality (or lack thereof) of recent American presidents than it does excuse Obama's not going.

Several have asked whether the Arlington appearance is different from the appearance at some other Memorial Day activity. It's not Arlington that's different, it's the Tomb of the Unknown.

IMNSHO, the Tomb of the Unknown is a different kind of memorial. One that highlights a willingness to serve despite one's anonymity to those being served. When I go to a Memorial Day or similar celebration in my home town, the vets marching in the parade are personally connected to me. So are the people in the cemeteries. I may not know them myself, but my parents or my cousins do. Or I may know their widows or their cousins. At the very least, I'm going to recognize most of their names or recall seeing someone with that name on the street.

But those at the Tomb of the Unknown don't have that connection. No one knows who they were. We only know that they served, they protected, and they died. When a public official goes to the Tomb of Unknown, he or she is making a different statement than merely making another meet-and-greet with little plastic flags and limp handshakes.

And when he fails to make an appearance, he's also making a statement.

The wrong kind.

"Wade" wrote:



The concern is not whether or not Obama is right or wrong in going home. Would I prefer him there? Sure and for the reasons you state in your post, but I also won't judge him on this either. I don't see it as an issue like I would health care or his actions during the oil spill.

What I want to know is whether not going there makes him less of an American than say Ronald Reagen, who also apparently skipped out? Unfortunately the answer is yes for enough people and I would argue that is a bigger problem than Obama going home.
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