15 years ago

The guy plays well at times but like in the Arizona game, at a crucial time, he gets beat on the inside and ends up with the holding call that eventually got them beat.

"warhawk" wrote:



If you are going to blame him for the AZ game, you should also give him credit for his play the first 60 minutes of the game, when the offense was literally unstoppable. That was one of the best offensive showings in Packers postseason history.
Bigbyfan
15 years ago

The guy plays well at times but like in the Arizona game, at a crucial time, he gets beat on the inside and ends up with the holding call that eventually got them beat.

"get_louder_at_lambeau" wrote:



If you are going to blame him for the AZ game, you should also give him credit for his play the first 60 minutes of the game, when the offense was literally unstoppable. That was one of the best offensive showings in Packers postseason history.

"warhawk" wrote:



They weren't exactly what i would call "unstoppable" in the first half. The Packers had to come back from a pretty big deficit in the second half.
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Greg C.
15 years ago

When someone pushes him he gets better than them... and Mike McCarthy pushed him when he said he's going to have to battle for his spot with Spitz...

I think he'll be the best he's been because of that...

"beast" wrote:



I hope you're right, but considering how inconsistent he's been, we may have reached a point where we can't trust him anymore. He has established a pattern where he rises to the challenge of retaining his starting spot, but once he gets there he falls back. If Colledge wins the starting spot in training camp, I will have less confidence in him maintaining that level of play than I would with Spitz.
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15 years ago

The guy plays well at times but like in the Arizona game, at a crucial time, he gets beat on the inside and ends up with the holding call that eventually got them beat.

"Bigbyfan" wrote:



If you are going to blame him for the AZ game, you should also give him credit for his play the first 60 minutes of the game, when the offense was literally unstoppable. That was one of the best offensive showings in Packers postseason history.

"get_louder_at_lambeau" wrote:



They weren't exactly what i would call "unstoppable" in the first half. The Packers had to come back from a pretty big deficit in the second half.

"warhawk" wrote:



They scored more points in that game than ANY Packer team has EVER scored in a postseason game. I don't blame any offensive player for that loss. That loss was all on the defense.
Dexter_Sinister
15 years ago

Baluga, Newhouse, Wells, Sitton, Lang


It appears Uncle Ted has finally given the Oline it's due attention, but then Baluga fell into his lap didn't he?

"DakotaT" wrote:



If you finally gotta give him credit for paying attention to the O line now, you weren't paying enough attention when he picked up Sitton, Wells and Lang.

You can't say he wasn't paying attention just because guys were not working out. Some he picked up didn't pan out like he wanted, (Barbre) but that happens to every GM. Can you say Mandarich?

You are implying that getting Bulaga was just luck. Probably say the same about Rodgers and maybe Finley... wait a minute, how can one guy be so consistently lucky? Maybe it isn't luck. He is doing a pretty good job drafting. I don't know about every thing else, but drafting is good.
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go.pack.go.
15 years ago

Baluga, Newhouse, Wells, Sitton, Lang


It appears Uncle Ted has finally given the Oline it's due attention, but then Baluga fell into his lap didn't he?

"Dexter_Sinister" wrote:



If you finally gotta give him credit for paying attention to the O line now, you weren't paying enough attention when he picked up Sitton, Wells and Lang.

You can't say he wasn't paying attention just because guys were not working out. Some he picked up didn't pan out like he wanted, (Barbre) but that happens to every GM. Can you say Mandarich?

You are implying that getting Bulaga was just luck. Probably say the same about Rodgers and maybe Finley... wait a minute, how can one guy be so consistently lucky? Maybe it isn't luck. He is doing a pretty good job drafting. I don't know about every thing else, but drafting is good.

"DakotaT" wrote:



I haven't seen you around, but so far I like you. +1.
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Dexter_Sinister
15 years ago

Baluga, Newhouse, Wells, Sitton, Lang


It appears Uncle Ted has finally given the Oline it's due attention, but then Baluga fell into his lap didn't he?

"go.pack.go." wrote:



If you finally gotta give him credit for paying attention to the O line now, you weren't paying enough attention when he picked up Sitton, Wells and Lang.

You can't say he wasn't paying attention just because guys were not working out. Some he picked up didn't pan out like he wanted, (Barbre) but that happens to every GM. Can you say Mandarich?

You are implying that getting Bulaga was just luck. Probably say the same about Rodgers and maybe Finley... wait a minute, how can one guy be so consistently lucky? Maybe it isn't luck. He is doing a pretty good job drafting. I don't know about every thing else, but drafting is good.

"Dexter_Sinister" wrote:



I haven't seen you around, but so far I like you. +1.

"DakotaT" wrote:



Thanks, it's nice to be appreciated.
I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
all_about_da_packers
15 years ago

If you finally gotta give him credit for paying attention to the O line now, you weren't paying enough attention when he picked up Sitton, Wells and Lang.

"Dexter_Sinister" wrote:




In fairness, I think Dakota was implying that Ted is finally targeting o-linemen early in the draft. But his last statement states that perhaps it wasn't so much a change in strategy as much as Bulaga being too good to pass up (matching both need and "Best Player Available").


If we are honest, Ted for the most part has done a disservice to his coaches in the o-line talent he has given them. Recall Will Whiticker, Guard, selected seventh round and forced to start in his first year because Ted failed to bring in adequate bodies to replace Mike Whale.

Then there is the fact that he drafted Sitton, Barbre, and Lang in the fourth rounds, Giacomini and Newhouse in the fifth rounds, and Tony Moll in the sixth. Yes Sitton is closing in on being a Pro-bowler, but look at the rest of the list. Okay, Lang has some promise, but Barbre and Giacomini have done nothing of note; they were projects that have thus far failed.

Moll and Giacomini were converted TEs. Barbre was a Div II physically gifted beast with not much else going for him. Lang was a converted D-linemen in college.

The point is that yes he drafted some players with potential in Sitton and Lang, but he's also drafted some duds; that's a normal risk in the NFL Draft but one that is magnified as you go on to the later rounds.

Put differently: you have a better talent pool in the earlier rounds to choose from. As you move later on, you start taking players that may have potential, but the bust factor is also bigger. He may have hit on a couple of mid-late round picks, but still the players with "a chance to stick" he has drafted in the later rounds have certainly NOT left his coaches with a ton of sound talent / skill / fundamentals to work with.
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Stevetarded
15 years ago

If you finally gotta give him credit for paying attention to the O line now, you weren't paying enough attention when he picked up Sitton, Wells and Lang.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:




In fairness, I think Dakota was implying that Ted is finally targeting o-linemen early in the draft. But his last statement states that perhaps it wasn't so much a change in strategy as much as Bulaga being too good to pass up (matching both need and "Best Player Available").


If we are honest, Ted for the most part has done a disservice to his coaches in the o-line talent he has given them. Recall Will Whiticker, Guard, selected seventh round and forced to start in his first year because Ted failed to bring in adequate bodies to replace Mike Whale.

Then there is the fact that he drafted Sitton, Barbre, and Lang in the fourth rounds, Giacomini and Newhouse in the fifth rounds, and Tony Moll in the sixth. Yes Sitton is closing in on being a Pro-bowler, but look at the rest of the list. Okay, Lang has some promise, but Barbre and Giacomini have done nothing of note; they were projects that have thus far failed.

Moll and Giacomini were converted TEs. Barbre was a Div II physically gifted beast with not much else going for him. Lang was a converted D-linemen in college.

The point is that yes he drafted some players with potential in Sitton and Lang, but he's also drafted some duds; that's a normal risk in the NFL Draft but one that is magnified as you go on to the later rounds.

Put differently: you have a better talent pool in the earlier rounds to choose from. As you move later on, you start taking players that may have potential, but the bust factor is also bigger. He may have hit on a couple of mid-late round picks, but still the players with "a chance to stick" he has drafted in the later rounds have certainly NOT left his coaches with a ton of sound talent / skill / fundamentals to work with.

"Dexter_Sinister" wrote:



Well 2005 was certainly rough and I don't know the exact reasons for not targeting an O-lineman early that year but the very next season when 2 guards were obviously needed he drafted 2 in the first 3 rounds and another in round 5.

I don't see any problem with taking guys later to develop when you already have your guys that you think will be your starters on the roster. Sure most of those guys didn't work out so far but until Tauscher went down none of them really got a chance.
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15 years ago
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