Wade
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13 years ago
Wells: essential to keep. I'm seriously pissed if they let one of their two best OL get away.
Driver: given the way he bucked the tide and played well against NYG, I'm for trying to find a way to keep him, even if it means losing one of the PS duo of WR.
Green: He was one of my favorites last year, but was pretty much a non-factor this year. I attribute it to the lockout and not being in shape at the start of camp. I'd try to make a deal that gave him a shot to report in shape, and see how he performs in pre-season.
Grant: I think he should be back. RB is not the Packers problem by a long shot. But if he isn't back we're putting too much faith in Starks/Green to stay healthy or Green/Saine to progress big time. In short we're creating a problem area when we've already got several (DL, OL backup at least, LB, S).

I also think Ted should take out the wallet and actively pursue a good starter at DE and/or and/or DL and/or LB in free agency. Even if it means overpaying for a "name" (Calais Campbell and Mario Williams come to mind). That won't happen, of course. But can't stop me from wishing.



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Dulak
13 years ago

And I would blame that on the lack of pressure.

From my memory, when we got pressure on Eli, he rushed throws and threw a lot of incompletions. When he had time, he completed everything. Someone can go re-watch the game and prove or disprove that statement but I'm not in the mood to re-watch it. I think I'm right though.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



So true - easy thing would be is to take a look at the saints niners game. when the niners were 3rd and long the saints didnt just rush 3 and hope that would do something; they blitzed and made smith miss or sacked him/dropped etc ...

Wade
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13 years ago

Well you can't expect to get pressure on every single pass play. The problem is sometimes the secondary has to win some battles when the pass rush doesn't and our secondary almost never won those battles this year. The pass rush was bad for most of the year but that shouldn't be an excuse for the secondary. Almost none of our DBs had a good season.

A good example was a 3rd and 11 in the first quarter where we rushed 3. The Giants kept 7 guys to block on that play so we had 8 defenders to cover 3 receivers. Eli hit Nicks for about 15 yards and the pass wasn't even contested he just caught it and went down. The pass rush this year shouldn't get any more blame than the secondary, both were pretty awful for the most part.

For every pass play where the pressure failed to get home there was another where the DBs had a miscommunication or failed to get a jam or bit on a fake or just plain got beat. I don't know what many peoples aversion is to putting anything on our secondary but as a unit they were pretty awful this year.

Originally Posted by: Stevetarded 



Yes, but how many times this year did they mount anything approaching effective rush by rushing three? And how many times did rushing three mean the opposing quarterback had enough time to read War and Peace? Regardless of how many players the opposing team kept in, GB's three-man rush was completely ineffective ALL YEAR LONG.

Sure, some times with the three man rush, the secondary failed to do their job and allowed a quick completion. But regardless of what the DBs were doing, the three-man rush virtually never worked.

If I were a betting man, every time the Packer opponent had third and long this year and the D decided on a 3-man rush, I would have bet "first down!" And I would have had enough money to buy several bottles of that expensive scotch of zombieslayer's. If they're only going to rush 3, they might as well go all the way and put all 11 in coverage. There's going to be no significant difference in the likelihood they'll get to the opposing QB.

I agree that both line and secondary were pretty awful. Both need real fixing. But if it ends up being one or the other (which, given how relatively unlikely it is for Ted Thompson to find a fix in FA, and how relatively likely the changes have to come through the draft, I think it might have to be), then I'd rather put together an improved DL and ask it to cover secondary ills than the other way around.

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dhazer
13 years ago
I think Wells, Bush and Grant will be back but I see Finley gone. He will want a ton of money and I say we franchise and trade him. I am thinking someone will give up a #1 for him.

Side note about players available, I like the Williams idea but that will never happen. I have been hearing about a guy I would really love in Green Bay and that's Casey Hampton from the Steelers, They are saying he will have to take a paycut or be cut because they will be way over the cap. I would love to throw him in the middle and he is used to the 3-4. Also they are saying Timmons might be gone also.

Just a few thoughts but I don't see any big activity in free agency by Uncle Ted. They will bank on their home grown talent and bank on guys like Justin Harrels little brother in Neal.
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porky88
13 years ago
The Packers constantly take care of their own, especially if they’re a young and ascending talent. Finley fits that mold, so I think they’ll pay him a reasonably large amount of money. Put it this way, I think some people will complain about the price tag they give Finley, assuming they agree to a contract.

I agree that Finley, Wells, and Bush make the most sense to retain, though I’m guessing there will be a demand for Bush because of his ability to play special teams. Wells could also fetch a high price and I do think there is a disagreement between the two parties on his worth, but McCarthy has talked him up too much not to push for his return.
Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago

I see Finley gone. He will want a ton of money and I say we franchise and trade him. I am thinking someone will give up a #1 for him.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 


I don't see any way in hell another team gives up a first-round pick for Finley, but hey, we can hope. Ted Thompson has been known to rob people before, but I don't think even he has ever managed to rob someone that blind.
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DakotaT
13 years ago
At this point, the only thing Finley warrants is an incentive laden contract. If he insists on more, he is delusional. I suppose they'll let Driver play out his contract, but that means we carry 6 receivers next year with Gurley on the active roster. Wells is a must unless for some reason Konz falls to us in the draft.
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
I agree. I think they will promote Gurley to the active squad if they can at all spare the roster slot. With his unnaturally long wing span, if it turns out that he has softer hands than Finley, I could see Finley being let go. I think Driver is a more likely casualty, however.
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CaliforniaCheez
13 years ago
I should have made 6 threads, one on each player, Flynn has his own thread.

Some will not be cut early but in August and September they will be gone.

I don't hate Bush, it is just that I am frustrated that after all this time they cannot find anyone better. There was deadweight on the roster behind him. Roster spots that could have been used for a D-lineman or a back up Center.
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DoddPower
13 years ago

I should have made 6 threads, one on each player, Flynn has his own thread.

Some will not be cut early but in August and September they will be gone.

I don't hate Bush, it is just that I am frustrated that after all this time they cannot find anyone better. There was deadweight on the roster behind him. Roster spots that could have been used for a D-lineman or a back up Center.

Originally Posted by: CaliforniaCheez 



Well, hopefully House isn't "dead weight." I still have hopes that he will mature into a good nickle CB at worst. Although, it could be wishful thinking just like the was for that skinny Underwood kid.
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