Scott Tolzien looks sharp so far in Packers camp· Page 2

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

I don't know that we'll be "fine" he's got a good arm and decent mobility. I just question his decision making. If only we could have fused him and Flynn together. Then we'd have the best back up QB ever!

Originally Posted by: FLORIDA PACKER88

I'd take him over Seneca Wallace, Graham Harrell and probably Flynn too.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

musccy
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#12

The Packers have invested 2 years in Tolzien who even we can see has made big strides. Of all the positions on the team, QB didn't rank near the top of "need."

We can only guess where Ted ranked him but 31 other teams let him slide to the 5th round.

Both of us like him, the pick, and the possible reward he provides, so I agree it was a tremendous value pick, much like AR a decade ago.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#13

Originally Posted by: musccy

Packers invested three years in Graham Harrell. Golden Graham. Not a big deal. Tolzien didn't win for us. We NEEDED someone who could. Hundley has upside Scott doesn't.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

musccy
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#14

Packers invested three years in Graham Harrell. Golden Graham. Not a big deal. Tolzien didn't win for us. We NEEDED someone who could. Hundley has upside Scott doesn't.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Tolzien is a much better player than Graham, though...I feel that's easy to see.

We're nitpicking over something we ultimately both agree on...it's a good thing to have Hundley on the roster.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#15

Tolzien is a much better player than Graham, though...I feel that's easy to see.

We're nitpicking over something we ultimately both agree on...it's a good thing to have Hundley on the roster.

Originally Posted by: musccy

This was never about Hundley...it was about BPA or need drafting. I think we agree that we draft the BPA according to our need. We don't just draft the BPA.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

musccy
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#16

This was never about Hundley...it was about BPA or need drafting. I think we agree that we draft the BPA according to our need. We don't just draft the BPA.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

For a quick summary, yeah, I'd agree. Ted can say they're strictly bpa, but 2 corners in 2 picks this draft and all defense in 2012 I believe (?) show they're not literally bpa.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

9 years ago

#17

This was never about Hundley...it was about BPA or need drafting. I think we agree that we draft the BPA according to our need. We don't just draft the BPA.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

I'm not sure what this has to do with Scott Tolzien, but oh well. The Packers draft the best player available by THEIR chart. Recall in 2009 where Michael Crabtree and B.J. Raji were both available -- at what was it ninth overall? -- and the Packers took Raji. I think I even read that Thompson had Crabtree a slight edge over Raji. The Packers followed their chart or board whichever you want to call it and took the best player available because the DL was thin, and WR was not.

As for the topic here, because I like topics ... Tolzien looks like a different dude back there. The thing I didn't care much for about him was the deer in headlights look on the field. That has diminished or been marginalized down enough where he actually is looking somewhat confident back there.

Porforis
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#18

As for the topic here, because I like topics ... Tolzien looks like a different dude back there. The thing I didn't care much for about him was the deer in headlights look on the field. That has diminished or been marginalized down enough where he actually is looking somewhat confident back there.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Absolutely. He's always had the arm strength, his two issues were consistency and not panicking in the pocket (which might be related to consistency issues). He was a lot more consistent throwing the ball and seemed to be a lot more poised in the pocket with bodies coming towards him from multiple angles.

Too bad we have ARod, I'd be excited to see this kid start in another year or two if he keeps growing. But he'll end up going to another team, or just waste his career away on our bench (which I could live with too, but if the kid can start, let him start)

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

9 years ago

#19

Too bad we have ARod, I'd be excited to see this kid start in another year or two if he keeps growing.

Originally Posted by: Porforis

I would love to see the reaction of the fan bases of about two dozen NFL teams after reading this. 😂

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#20

I have no idea why I even entered this topic? I thought I was debating BPA vs. NEED in another thread. Sorry.

musccy and I talk to each other when it's deader at night...I must've clicked into this topic thinking I was in a different one.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

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