Tramon Williams· Page 4

IronMan
Veteran Member

16 years ago

#31

I had Ahmad Carroll visions going into that game.

"dfosterf" wrote:

(For Tromadz.)

Pack93z
Select Member

16 years ago

#32

This here is one of the major issues with the current CBA

The Players union pissed on the undrafted free agent kids coming into the league, signing for comparative peanuts and having to earn their way onto a roster and into visibility. Not many make impacts, but for the ones that do and outplay their contracts, they have little leverage in securing a fair competitive salary. The Union decided to protect the ridiculous money that the high drafted players in exchange for trapping these blue collar players.

Personally, if I am Williams or Grant, I demand to get a fair contract paid.. not blockbusters but fair market value contracts.

People complain about the Grant contract, it is incentive loaded, so Grant has to perform to earn some of the lucrative numbers in that deal..

Personally, if you take care of these types of players, the ones that earn their payday first with performance, you will reap the benefits of players actually choosing GB over some of the other in the UDFA rookie market.. where some of the hidden NFL gems come from

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

dfosterf
Veteran Member

16 years ago

#33

"pack93z" wrote:

This is an extremely good post. As for me, I wasn't one of those that complained about Grant getting that contract, I merely wanted to point out the context in which he got it. In a way, Ted "caved". If you couple that "cave-in" with a potential "chip on a shoulder" due to the built-in inequities of the CBA and obscene $$$ for draft picks as you are alluding to, this has all the makings for being a much bigger deal in a few months than it is now. I don't know if you would call this the flip side of the coin, but I keep dwelling on the ridiculous money cornerbacks are commanding these days... I can't even figure out what a guy like Tramon is worth in this market, but I'm willing to wager that "fair market value" is one hell of a lot more than one might think on first blush.

I just want to go on record as saying this one gets ugly.

warhawk
Senior Member

16 years ago

#34

How many times does Ted Thompson need to show these agents that he will NOT pay a guy before he's proven himself but then when he does the new contract is at his door. GEEZ.

I cannot think of single Packer that just went out and played and let the rest take care of itself that wasn't rewarded with a new contract and extension as long as they were deserving.

Tramon can overcome the way the CBA works by going out and playing well and will only hurt himself with a holdout. The way good CB's are paid in this league the last thing he needs to worry about is money if he just goes out and plays like he can.

"The train is leaving the station."

Pack93z
Select Member

16 years ago

#35

I compare it much to the Fielder deal with the Brewers.. you buy out their exclusive and restricted free agent deals with a competitive incentive laden salary and have it end a year after their restricted days are over.

The player remains hungry and productive, you still are getting value on said player and he is getting a decent payday, but has his eyes firmly affixed on his major payday once his contract is up and he is in his prime.

In addition to better slotted and financially responsible contracts for the highly drafted, this loophole needs to be closed so these blue collar players have some leverage in obtaining fair deals.

Maybe something like the baseballs arbitration for these young players. Third party neutral party setting the contract dollar based on performance.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Pack93z
Select Member

16 years ago

#36

Tramon can overcome the way the CBA works by going out and playing well and will only hurt himself with a holdout. The way good CB's are paid in this league the last thing he needs to worry about is money if he just goes out and plays like he can.

"warhawk" wrote:

What happens he suffers a major injury and never realizes his payday? The system is unfair... IMO.

Here is a guy that has proven himself by developing and playing well when called upon, but just because he was an UDFA he isn't entitled to a fair compensation comparatively.. especially when he outplays someone like a Jarrett Bush whom gets tendered a 1 million?

I think it is a flaw in the system.. that is all.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

wils0646
Registered

16 years ago

#37

I had Ahmad Carroll visions going into that game.

"IronMan" wrote:

(For Tromadz.)

"dfosterf" wrote:

+1. I LOL'd.

The Pack Will Be Back.

dfosterf
Veteran Member

16 years ago

#38

Consequences start Monday.

OTA's

dhazer
Veteran Member

16 years ago

#39

How many times does Ted Thompson need to show these agents that he will NOT pay a guy before he's proven himself but then when he does the new contract is at his door. GEEZ.

I cannot think of single Packer that just went out and played and let the rest take care of itself that wasn't rewarded with a new contract and extension as long as they were deserving.

Tramon can overcome the way the CBA works by going out and playing well and will only hurt himself with a holdout. The way good CB's are paid in this league the last thing he needs to worry about is money if he just goes out and plays like he can.

"warhawk" wrote:

Well he forked out the huge contract to Grant after one year and how soon do we forget he forked out tons of cash on Rodgers after what 6 games? So i guess he isn't showing the agents to much. Sorry War just had to bring it up.

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

zombieslayer
Registered

16 years ago

#40

"dhazer" wrote:

Technically, Grant was a little bit more than half a year, not even a full year. Remember he was a bench warmer? He got his first touches in Week 3 with 3 carries for 10 yards. Got 3 more carries in week 4. Zero in Week 5. Zero in Week 6. Week 7 a bye week. Week 8 he became our starter.

My man Donald Driver

(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷

Important Information:

The PACKERSHOME uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. More Details Close

Fan Shout

TheKanataThrilla (now) : As a Canadian and a follower of Canadian University football. I am rooting for him

dfosterf (1m) : I bet a lot of us will follow the Taylor Elgersma journey with interest. Personally, got a Kurt Warner vibe goin' on. I like him

TheKanataThrilla (1m) : Not sure if either will be claimed though.

TheKanataThrilla (2m) : Tune or Hooker would make sense

dfosterf (15m) : Clayton Tune cut by the Cards? Don't know if that's the guy, we shall see

TheKanataThrilla (39m) : Per Bill Huber, the Packers will not be bringing back Taylor Elgersma or Sean Clifford on the practice squad, so a new third quarterback

Mucky Tundra (1h) : Schefter must have deleted his tweet

dfosterf (2h) : Hopefully Jerry reaches under the seat cushions and ashtrays of his jet and scrapes up the 45 million apr and spares us further nonsense

dfosterf (2h) : Have to admit the PO'd Cowboy fan videos would be fun to watch. Problem with draft picks is half their fanbase barely knows what that is

beast (3h) : I think Cowboys fans are ready to get their pitch forks and burning sticks if Jerry were to trade Micah

dfosterf (3h) : If Jerry traded Micah to GB, here in northern Va. they would have to quick build yet another data center to handle the internet hate traffic

Zero2Cool (3h) : its signing and trades that you don't hear about, other then announced

Zero2Cool (3h) : If you hear rumors about Packers sign or trade, won't happen. Not how they work

dfosterf (3h) : 19 players in a contract year. Jones called loss to us worst loss in Cowboy history. Forget Parsons trade. Not happenin' Cap'n

packerfanoutwest (5h) : The Packers, meanwhile, are the youngest team in the league for the third consecutive year.

dfosterf (7h) : That it was darkest before the dawn in Bengals and Commanders before they got deals done

Zero2Cool (7h) : what is Schefter saying?

dfosterf (7h) : He was getting Dorito infusion therapy

dfosterf (7h) : He's outta shape. Why, just the other day I saw him splayed out on the trainers table

Mucky Tundra (13h) : Parsons has followed Rasheed Walker on Twitter. Quite the choice

Mucky Tundra (13h) : Kuhn is a former player who works for the team, if somethings going down, he would be close to it

Mucky Tundra (13h) : @kuhnj30 Micah Freaking Parsons

Mucky Tundra (13h) : A LOT of buzz on the Bird App regarding Parsons; even Schefter is saying it's serious

dfosterf (19h) : *Orzech*

dfosterf (19h) : Orzich long snapper 3 yr extension

Zero2Cool (20h) : Packers signed someone for three year deal

Zero2Cool (20h) : lol i know it's insane ... sign up for the waiver wire then you'll know

wpr (20h) : YES!!!!!!

Mucky Tundra (20h) : WE WANT THE LIST! WE WANT THE LIST!

Zero2Cool (21h) : @JJLahey · 2m Holy crap, Packers, where the heck is the list?

Zero2Cool (21h) : haha folks on Tweeter every year this time ... 'where is list Packers!!" hahaha

wpr (21h) : He played pretty good.

Zero2Cool (21h) : NAZIR STACKHOUSE HAS MADE THE 53

Zero2Cool (22h) : NOOOOO KALEN IS GONE

Zero2Cool (23h) : Kalen King and Kamal Hadden making it. me thinks

schroeder84 (23h) : @dfosterf I suspect Elgersma WILL be hard to hide. Raw, but talented

Zero2Cool (26-Aug) : pp.com is broken, halt testing, gotta go do work things for a bit

hardrocker950 (26-Aug) : Mecole Hardman was released, to the surprise of few

Zero2Cool (26-Aug) : PP.com updated. Reset Password works, and now User Profile pages are a thing

Zero2Cool (25-Aug) : Soft hope plan is having fantasy football weekly on-site that i build. cannot do that with this setup.

Zero2Cool (25-Aug) : It's older technology, resource hog, cannot be upgraded/changed. That's to start.

packerfanoutwest (25-Aug) : Ok, but what is wrong with this site?

Zero2Cool (25-Aug) : check out packerpeople.com

Mucky Tundra (25-Aug) : Oh crap I missed that! I thought it was a 2026 pick

Zero2Cool (25-Aug) : It wasn't even next year pick, it's two years away. old dog food value

Mucky Tundra (25-Aug) : Yep! Everytime a team trades with Howie that team is the loser (so says the media)

Zero2Cool (25-Aug) : We are hosed.

Mucky Tundra (25-Aug) : Per Schefter, GB is sending a 6th rounder for OT Darian Kennard

Zero2Cool (24-Aug) : Finally got new site to keep folks logged in. New tech is pain sometimes

dfosterf (23-Aug) : Taylor Elgersma is going to be very hard to hide.

Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2025 Packers Schedule

Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM

LIONS

Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM

COMMANDERS

Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM

Browns

Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM

Cowboys

Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM

BENGALS

Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM

Cardinals

Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM

Steelers

Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM

PANTHERS

Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM

EAGLES

Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM

Giants

Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM

VIKINGS

Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM

Lions

Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM

BEARS

Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM

Broncos

Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM

Bears

Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM

RAVENS

Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM

Vikings