No video to corroborate Bennett's contention means it didn't happen? We dont have video because THE COPS TURNED OFF THEIR CAMERAS! Or imagining the shit-storm for putting a gun to an NFL players head while threatening to blow it off, they tampered with evidence by disposing of the video. Again, bad cops work not to document their badness and will work to undocument it when necessary!!!

Ranger Villeneuva of Steelers upon further reflection admitted he made a mistake standing in tunnel for the Anthem. And not all of our military/Vets know why they fight/fought. They fight to preserve, the rule of law, the peaceful transition of power and liberty and freedom for all; to preserve our national security. Cops profiling, harassing, assaulting, batterying and/or assassinating minorities violates each reason. There are racists and racially insensitive in the military and to the military/vet that innocently doesn't get it, we still very much appreciate your service; but you should reflect before you speak.

Not everyone has to have the exact same agenda to protest or to openly support protesters. Some get more vocal when it becomes more real, like realizing your brother death was continent on an enraged adrenaline filled lunatic's twitching of his index finger. Some become outraged when they see how protesters are treated; that's why I ended up at Standing Rock with several military/veterans, I'm convinced this prevented blood shed. And if the State takes issue with private protest like Trump did; that is sill another reason to now realize you must help to preserve a free America. BTW, Trump's behavior gives Kaepernick a path to a 1st amendment suit for the loss of his employment.

Kaepernik stuff FALSE and will be considered a prevarication until you source your position.
Kendrick point silly which must be: once protesting about police violence; he cant speak about PR.

You argue the movement is based on outliers; but then use outlier examples to argue "nobody" knows what they're protesting. Dot be a flip-flop sally. Outliers either prove or dont prove an issue; but ya cant flip-flop to suit the shameful argument you set forth.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 

Ok Bar and Porforis , let's try an experiment tomorrow. I want you to go into work and clock in and after that I want you to go outside and start protesting. Like against the KKK or BLM whatever and I can guarantee you won't have a job for very long.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 

Why well #1 once you clock in you are property of the owner of the company and you are wasting time and not being productive.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 

#2 is if it brings negative feedback towards your company you would be let go. So the way I look at it the players are on the clock when they protest so it is wrong and it brings negative feedback towards the club.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 

They can do all their protesting on social media or go out in the Parking lot before or after the game and protest away.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 

What I would love to see is at halftime of next weeks games the security all takes a knee and lets the crowd do whatever they want to the players. I think that would be justice.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 

How?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

If Kap alleged losing his government job over his speech; the suit would be viable; the problem is he didn't lose a State job.

However, if the private employer conspired with the State to cause the loss of his job; he'd have a viable cause of action.

Now Kap can try to allege the State did conspire with the NFL. Conspiracy can be proven by circumstantial evidence because the hard evidence one normally needs to prove allegations rests in the hands of the conspirators.

Kap could use Trump's and other State officials' relationships w/ the owners; and how some of his policies are designed to help big business, which also helps Owners; and Trump's statements about "firing" the protesting "SOBs" and those he made about taking money away from the Saints for protesting; to argue there's an on going agreement between the Owners.

This might seem weak. But ya got PODUS saying Kap should not have a job and Kap not having a job. A judge might let discovery go forward.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 

Kaepernick didn't lose his job. He opted out of his contract. He Quit.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 

biggest problem today is nobody knows what they are protesting about anymore. Kaepernick started not even protesting. He was simply sitting, the "protesting" didn't come out until weeks later to try and protect his ass "image". And that was based on a lie or misrepresentation in the first place. Hell, Lance Kendricks was talking about Puerto Rico. Bennett is supposedly protesting about his brothers treatment and the video of that doesn't show anything to back up that claim. Some of them were protesting because kaepernick doesn't have a job. That makes the act of disrespecting the flag and anthem even worse.


In addition, players are saying they were not disrespecting our military or veterans. Clearly from the response to these protests, the act HAS disrespected many, not all by many veterans and military members. Going forward, if they continue to protest in this manner, they do so knowing their act is disrespectful.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 

As long as the NFL must endure protest , I'd just like to know what is being protested.
Every citizen of legal age can vote.
Every child in America is offered the opportunity to attend school (K->12) and many continue on to college.
Also if one applies oneself and succeeds , scholarships are available . In addition , community colleges are very affordable and offer day / and night classes .
Anyone that puts forth the effort and earns a promotion, can get ahead if an open position exist .
Any man or woman can get medical attention in any emergency room in America .

IMO , if your willing to put down the Alcohol / Drugs and work to make your life better, then anyone can succeed . Companies are always short of highly qualified personal and sometimes will help their employees go to College / Trade Schools.

What is the protest all about ? [confused]

Originally Posted by: Smokey