ILikeThePackers39
16 years ago

Hey, AROD may be a good QB someday.

Right now, we really don't know that, STILL!

(That's the whole point, isn't it? Gambling on the unknown?)

I thought Ted was supposed to be conservative?

"TheOldMan" wrote:



I hate to break it to you, but the kid's good now. No, he's not Brett Favre good, and there's a good chance he never will be - you only get one best QB ever, every couple-three generations or so.

So what's our crime? Because we happen to see some validity to moving forward with the new guy, even though 98% of us would have loved to see Favre end his career w/ the Packers, and because we're choosing to back the new guy? Is this what makes us so awful?

What went down went down, and nobody on this site knows the entire truth about it. The one thing we do know is that it went down and Brett Favre no longer plays for the Green Bay Packers. So we're left with a few choices, as fans:

1. Scream, wail, and generally throw an internet tantrum about it. Join sites like FireTedThompson.com. None of which will change anything.

2. Decide that the whole thing is reason enough to find another team to root for. I mean, if I can't live w/ Thompson as a GM, what else do I do?

3. Realize that all the crap that went down is water under the bridge, continue to cheer for our favorite football team, and try to find things to enjoy about said team - things like one of the more promising young WRs in the league, a good young QB, and a young improving defense. None of those has a damn thing to do w/ Favre, so are we 'hating' on him?

I chose option 3. Anyone choosing another option is welcome to do so - all are valid.
blank
16 years ago

I hate Ted Thompson and i will always say that. I don't agree with how he runs a team. I hated him from his 1st year in Green Bay and probably always will. He spends money like its his own and that just pisses me off. If you try and say i hate Ted Thompson cuz of the circus with Brett you edit ###alternative needed dfoster--I have been a proud Ted Thompson hater from day 1. I was banned from another forum because of it and i was drawn here because Zero said i can speak my mind on it (boy i bet he regrets it now lol)

Btw what the hell is this thread about lol

"dhazer" wrote:



I will gladly accept that your hatred for Ted Thompson has existed since Day 1 of his tenure with the Packers. That to me makes more sense.
UserPostedImage
TheOldMan
16 years ago

Hey, AROD may be a good QB someday.

Right now, we really don't know that, STILL!

(That's the whole point, isn't it? Gambling on the unknown?)

I thought Ted was supposed to be conservative?

"warhawk" wrote:



Well, what did you want him to do BUILD a QB out of metal?

Look, Brett Favre wasn't going to be around forever and right now this team is in better shape for ARod because transition in this league is a reality.

The reality of it is this transition could be a whole lot more difficult than it has been for us. See Chicago. See San Francisco. See Detroit. See the Vikings. It aint easy to come up with a solid QB in this league.

So you know what? It don't matter how good Brett Favre WAS for us at this point. What matters is what we have to go on with from here and we have a solid, young, QB to move forward with. You want to nitpic over two int's and somehow that should get me to take a double take on what I saw last year?

McCarthy has had to deal with nothing but transition since he's been here and THAT was inevitable as well since Sherman wasn't bringing up young talent to replace the old guys when it was their time. MS couldn't pull it off when he HAD one of the most unchanging environments over five years any coach could have been blessed with. Can you imagine what he would have done with the youngest team in the NFL and no security blanket around him?

I mean, you do realize if you make next to no changes over an extended period of time in this league it means BIG changes at some point, right?

I know Brett Favre was good in '07 and I know he was the guy that got us to the Title Game but there's also more to it than that. Brett Favre was running MIKE MCCARTHY'S OFFENSE. How hard is it to see that Brett Favre was better off for Mike McCarthy and how he wanted the offense run and obviously too, the Packers were better off that Brett bought into it and ran it as well as he did?

Mike Sherman couldn't get that kind of production out of him when he had one of the most veteran teams in the NFL around Favre.

I don't know what the hell the problem is around here anyhow.

Brett Favre was good. Brett Favre is gone.
Arod is here now and looks highly capable.
Mike McCarthy managed both guys about as well as you could ask shaping a perfect offense for Brett and grooming Arod and when it was his time he was certainly no deer in headlights. He's ready.

I really just don't understand what some people find to bitch about.

"TheOldMan" wrote:



Brett Favre could have been here for two more years, and so could AROD, if Thompson could have just dealt with the situation like a grown up instead of hiding out on vacation.

This is what ticks me off so much. We could still have Brett and AROD, then the transition would have been alot smoother, but I really think that Ted wanted Brett gone, and when he had the opportunity to cut him loose, he took it.
Truth be known, I'm TT's baby!
16 years ago
Do you honestly believe that Ted Thompson made the decision based on his own wants and was able to cut Favre loose regardless of what the rest of the organization thought? That they didn't meet and discuss this at all? That it wasn't a decision made by the organization, weighing all the facts? That Thompson has that kind of unchecked power?

Simply because we don't live in Bizarro World, I can guarantee that the decision to move on without Brett Favre was carefully weighed and calculated by a number of people.
UserPostedImage
TheOldMan
16 years ago
Yes, people who "defer" to Ted Thompson, the GM for personnel decisions.
Truth be known, I'm TT's baby!
Pack93z
16 years ago

Yes, people who "defer" to Ted Thompson, the GM for personnel decisions.

"TheOldMan" wrote:



While I completely agree that Thompson makes the final roster calls on a normal basis, you know a decision of that importance to the financial and fan base health of the franchise was discussed by the board and Mark Murphy.

In fact, I believe it was reported upon during the divorce last year. The Board and Murphy sided with the decision that was made..

Face it.. there is more to this story than has been released in public.. why one has to assume upon. But there is no doubt that there is more under the surface of this decision.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
warhawk
16 years ago
It was time for the transition. Brett was not what he was in the past and keeping Arod on the bench puts him back from getting the first year behind him.

It holds the team hostage from moving forward with the new guy at the helm. How could ARod sitting out '08 possibly help the Packers in '10, '11 and beyond that? It couldn't.

From what I saw last year when his body started failing in the last six games is EXACTLY why you could not put your future on hold. It's not he wasnt' good enough but that when hurt he couldn't do it anymore.

Brett Favre playing well with injury or hoping he doesn't get hurt at this stage is foolhardy and that proved itself so last year.
"The train is leaving the station."
TheOldMan
16 years ago
Well, I respect your opinion warhawk, but I just disagree, I guess.

It would be the ultimate "I told you so" for Brett Favre if he signed with the Vikings and took them to the Superbowl, however.
Truth be known, I'm TT's baby!
vikesrule
16 years ago
UserPostedImage 
bozz_2006
16 years ago
hey VR. welcome home! Do you want Favre to sign with the vikings? packerchatters says he's gonna have surgery then sign on. I have been saying that he'd sign with them ever since the day the jets released him, so i think it's gonna happen. I am afraid that he'll beat us. I am equally afraid that he won't, and he'll look like a fool. I don't want that.
UserPostedImage
Users browsing this topic
    Fan Shout
    Mucky Tundra (2h) : Anything over 4 hours means he needs to get to the hospital
    Mucky Tundra (2h) : Someone might want to check on Hafley and make sure his erection has gone down
    Zero2Cool (4h) : LaFleur texts "bleep me I cannot sit down"
    Zero2Cool (4h) : YouTube has had me last hour or two lol
    Mucky Tundra (4h) : Ugh this trade happened right as my shift started and it's killing me
    Zero2Cool (4h) : Parsons wore 23 in high school.
    Zero2Cool (5h) : Packers just cost Lions more money with Hutchinson too huh
    Zero2Cool (6h) : That is fair by me.
    buckeyepackfan (6h) : Kenny Clark is the player, 2 1st rnd picks
    Zero2Cool (6h) : umm... what?
    wpr (6h) : I am stunned
    Mucky Tundra (6h) : RICKEY SCOOPS WAS RIGHT AGAIN!!!
    Mucky Tundra (6h) : ITS HAPPENING
    buckeyepackfan (6h) : DEAL IS DONE
    buckeyepackfan (6h) : MICAH IS COMING TO GREEN BAY!!!!!!!!!
    wpr (13h) : Me do-ed it gooderly,
    Zero2Cool (28-Aug) : Bahah, I was like WTF why isn't anyone posting on PP.com ... oops no one has permissions
    dfosterf (27-Aug) : tell her I reckon
    dfosterf (27-Aug) : Micah Robinson cut. Probable PS player tomorrow. Has to call mom back and t
    Zero2Cool (27-Aug) : New site so much better. Might make switch and deal with it.
    dfosterf (27-Aug) : Mecole Hardman to our practice squad
    dfosterf (27-Aug) : Nick Nieman from Texans our 5th linebacker. Special teams signing
    TheKanataThrilla (27-Aug) : Looks like we signed Clayton Tune as QB3
    wpr (27-Aug) : TKT people lose their minds over QB3. Point is almost none of them are ready that's why they are on the PS and other teams don't take them.
    TheKanataThrilla (27-Aug) : Unfortunately he doesn't seem ready to be an emergency QB.
    TheKanataThrilla (27-Aug) : As a Canadian and a follower of Canadian University football. I am rooting for him
    dfosterf (27-Aug) : I bet a lot of us will follow the Taylor Elgersma journey with interest. Personally, got a Kurt Warner vibe goin' on. I like him
    TheKanataThrilla (27-Aug) : Not sure if either will be claimed though.
    TheKanataThrilla (27-Aug) : Tune or Hooker would make sense
    dfosterf (27-Aug) : Clayton Tune cut by the Cards? Don't know if that's the guy, we shall see
    TheKanataThrilla (27-Aug) : Per Bill Huber, the Packers will not be bringing back Taylor Elgersma or Sean Clifford on the practice squad, so a new third quarterback
    Mucky Tundra (27-Aug) : Schefter must have deleted his tweet
    dfosterf (27-Aug) : Hopefully Jerry reaches under the seat cushions and ashtrays of his jet and scrapes up the 45 million apr and spares us further nonsense
    dfosterf (27-Aug) : Have to admit the PO'd Cowboy fan videos would be fun to watch. Problem with draft picks is half their fanbase barely knows what that is
    beast (27-Aug) : I think Cowboys fans are ready to get their pitch forks and burning sticks if Jerry were to trade Micah
    dfosterf (27-Aug) : If Jerry traded Micah to GB, here in northern Va. they would have to quick build yet another data center to handle the internet hate traffic
    Zero2Cool (27-Aug) : its signing and trades that you don't hear about, other then announced
    Zero2Cool (27-Aug) : If you hear rumors about Packers sign or trade, won't happen. Not how they work
    dfosterf (27-Aug) : 19 players in a contract year. Jones called loss to us worst loss in Cowboy history. Forget Parsons trade. Not happenin' Cap'n
    packerfanoutwest (27-Aug) : The Packers, meanwhile, are the youngest team in the league for the third consecutive year.
    dfosterf (27-Aug) : That it was darkest before the dawn in Bengals and Commanders before they got deals done
    Zero2Cool (27-Aug) : what is Schefter saying?
    dfosterf (27-Aug) : He was getting Dorito infusion therapy
    dfosterf (27-Aug) : He's outta shape. Why, just the other day I saw him splayed out on the trainers table
    Mucky Tundra (27-Aug) : Parsons has followed Rasheed Walker on Twitter. Quite the choice
    Mucky Tundra (27-Aug) : Kuhn is a former player who works for the team, if somethings going down, he would be close to it
    Mucky Tundra (27-Aug) : @kuhnj30 Micah Freaking Parsons
    Mucky Tundra (27-Aug) : A LOT of buzz on the Bird App regarding Parsons; even Schefter is saying it's serious
    dfosterf (26-Aug) : *Orzech*
    dfosterf (26-Aug) : Orzich long snapper 3 yr extension
    Please sign in to use Fan Shout
    2025 Packers Schedule
    Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
    LIONS
    Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
    COMMANDERS
    Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
    Browns
    Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
    Cowboys
    Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
    BENGALS
    Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
    Cardinals
    Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
    Steelers
    Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
    PANTHERS
    Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
    EAGLES
    Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
    Giants
    Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
    VIKINGS
    Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
    Lions
    Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
    BEARS
    Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
    Broncos
    Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
    Bears
    Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
    RAVENS
    Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
    Vikings
    Recent Topics
    17m / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    7h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    13h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    28-Aug / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Zero2Cool

    27-Aug / Fantasy Sports Talk / Zero2Cool

    27-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    27-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / Cheesey

    26-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    26-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    25-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    24-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    Headlines
    Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.