British
15 years ago
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/65380942.html 

I guess this is what happens when there is a logjam at one position.
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15 years ago
http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20091021/PKR01/91021208/1058/PKR01 

As long as Barnett and Chillar stay healthy, nothing is likely to change, and barring a stunning turn of events, Hawk also might not have much of a future with the Packers. His base salary next season is $4.1 million, which no team would pay for a part-time inside linebacker. That means the Packers either will release him or ask him to take a huge pay cut and release him if he refuses.

The Packers have some depth with Desmond Bishop, who has been only a special teams player after standing out at inside linebacker in the preseason. If they re-sign Chillar, who will be a free agent after the season, theyll have three viable players for two inside spots even without Hawk.


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15 years ago

"It has no reflection on (Hawk's) play, it has no reflection on is a guy playing better than another guy, like Chillar and Barnett in those combinations," Moss said.



That's EXACTLY what it means. Moss who are you kidding?
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15 years ago

"It has no reflection on (Hawk's) play, it has no reflection on is a guy playing better than another guy, like Chillar and Barnett in those combinations," Moss said.

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That's EXACTLY what it means. Moss who are you kidding?



No sh*t right? I was hoping we would of shopped him and found some kind of taker but oh well.. So is he considered a bust about now?
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15 years ago

The problem has been that against the Minnesota Vikings and the Lions, the game plans called for the Packers to be in nickel much more than base. And the Packers clearly prefer Brandon Chillar and Nick Barnett in that situation.




I found that part funny seeing we were playing to stop the run against the Vikes i don't remember much nickel and why would we play nickel so much against the Lions when their main weapon was the running back?
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The problem has been that against the Minnesota Vikings and the Lions, the game plans called for the Packers to be in nickel much more than base. And the Packers clearly prefer Brandon Chillar and Nick Barnett in that situation.

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I found that part funny seeing we were playing to stop the run against the Vikes i don't remember much nickel and why would we play nickel so much against the Lions when their main weapon was the running back?



+1 good call. I know when they played the Vikings they had 25 men in the box. Against the Lions I thought they went back and forth a little more.
If I am not mistaking GB has a run stop scheme when they are in nickle. Most likely that is what they were using against the Lions.
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coltonja
15 years ago
I really hope he decides to take a pay cut. Regardless, if his numbers are going down, as was shown in another thread. We are playing a 3-4 which requires different execution than last year, so I expected him to get less tackles with another linebacker in there. Even with the change in defense Hawk is a very talented player on our defense but maybe just not a $4.1 mil player.
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15 years ago

The problem has been that against the Minnesota Vikings and the Lions, the game plans called for the Packers to be in nickel much more than base. And the Packers clearly prefer Brandon Chillar and Nick Barnett in that situation.

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I found that part funny seeing we were playing to stop the run against the Vikes i don't remember much nickel and why would we play nickel so much against the Lions when their main weapon was the running back?



Since the regular season started, we have been playing nickle somewhere between 50-75% of the snaps on defense. When you see us with 2 down Dline. That is essentially the nickle. Just because we do it against 1st and 10 to stop the run doesn't change that it is a nickle formation.

We have been using it more than anything else all season. My guess is to keep more speed on the field.
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buckeyepackfan
15 years ago

I really hope he decides to take a pay cut. Regardless, if his numbers are going down, as was shown in another thread. We are playing a 3-4 which requires different execution than last year, so I expected him to get less tackles with another linebacker in there. Even with the change in defense Hawk is a very talented player on our defense but maybe just not a $4.1 mil player.

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Why should he take a pay cut? Packers don't need him, trade him or release him, there are 31 other teams out there, many I bet would love to have AJ Hawk. At his current salary.

He gets 9 plays because of the scheme The Packers decide to play, I guess that makes him a bust!!!

Way to go Ted another #1 pick you wasted, let's see that makes you pretty much 1 for 5.
Time to get another GM, one who can draft quality players in the first round.

Hell even AROD has a losing record, maybe I should adjust that to 0-5.

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I really hope he decides to take a pay cut. Regardless, if his numbers are going down, as was shown in another thread. We are playing a 3-4 which requires different execution than last year, so I expected him to get less tackles with another linebacker in there. Even with the change in defense Hawk is a very talented player on our defense but maybe just not a $4.1 mil player.

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Why should he take a pay cut? Packers don't need him, trade him or release him, there are 31 other teams out there, many I bet would love to have AJ Hawk. At his current salary.

He gets 9 plays because of the scheme The Packers decide to play, I guess that makes him a bust!!!

Way to go Ted another #1 pick you wasted, let's see that makes you pretty much 1 for 5.
Time to get another GM, one who can draft quality players in the first round.

Hell even AROD has a losing record, maybe I should adjust that to 0-5.

TED THOMPSON MUST GO, HE HAS NO CLUE WHAT HE IS DOING!!!!

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Technically Ted has only had 4 1st round picks and if you thinnk Aaron is a bust despite his record you are crazy.
Further more there is no way you can label Raji a bust this is his 1st year.
So your whole post while it is mean, it is actually meaningless.


Edit- carp I was on the phone and forgot 2 1st this year. Matthews i anything but a bust.
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