Hawk unhappy· Page 4 · PACKERSHOME

dd80forever
Registered

14 years ago

Yep... all a figment of the imagination ..

Again Solid Player.. but makes little impact around the line of scrimmage and plays like a Barnett junior.. makes tackles 3 to 7 yards past the line of scrimmage..

But carry on with the dramatics... no one is saying he "sucks".. never uttered that phrase in my days... could he play better, more aggressively and make impact hits.. you bet.

All I want is some of the OSU intensity he played with.. not this sitting on his heels (for Foster) and waiting for everything.

You notice the broken record type effect with this.. I knew I shouldn't have hopped into this thread.. some can't handle when players are criticized for play without taking it to the "he sucks" limit.

"pack93z" wrote:

I understand you Pack93. I love Hawk, I really do, but his play is not been anything more than decent. Not the impact player we thought he was going to be.

blank

gijoe82
Registered

14 years ago

#32

The performance of our LBrs shouldn't even be a big topic of conversation right now, especially after holding Peterson to 2.2 ypc. I feel like this is just fallout from last season when we couldn't get enough of attacking them. As a group they are performing admirably.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:

+1 smartest thing said in this thread

blank

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#33

"pack93z" wrote:

I will keep up with the dramatics, I know you have not been saying Hawk "sucks", but there are probably between 5 to 10 threads that say that exact thing.

It is the nature of this forum, somebody has to be blamed for every bad year, every bad game, every bad play, for some reason AJ Hawk is this years whooping boy, when claimes of him sucking and his play falling off every year JUST ISN"T TRUE.

Now when , because of defensive schemes, he is only on the field for 9 plays the whole game, yea his production is going to drop off.

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

Pack93z
Select Member

14 years ago

#34

"gijoe82" wrote:

+1 smartest thing said in this thread

"MassPackersFan" wrote:

This I do agree with in the big picture.. I happen to be just obsessed with linebacker play... imagine what it could be.

Honestly.. beyond some game schemes, a few bad drops, and the line play of this team.. most other topics are nitpicking at the moment.. Solve the Oline play and we start to roll.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

gijoe82
Registered

14 years ago

#35

He played well his rookie year.. started to slump the 07' season.. and last year was more of the same.. tentative reactionary play.. but he is assignment sure and rarely makes a mistake. He started last season with intensity and fizzled from October on..

Solid player.. I have said that since about Oct 07.. just doesn't play with his instincts that he has in college.

"pack93z" wrote:

Agreed and I think to sum it up most feel the same, the problem lies in his draft position and his salary. Chillar is arguably as good and less than half the price.

I think everyone would be real high on Hawk right now if lets say he was a third rounder and making third round money.

~ fixed quote box. ~ pack93z

blank

gijoe82
Registered

14 years ago

#36

/\
|
|
| thanks you pack93z

blank

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

14 years ago

#37

PH Staff now known as
Glorified Quote Box Repairmen.

Pack93z
Select Member

14 years ago

#38

PH Staff now known as
Glorified Quote Box Repairmen.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

lol.. ask LTF.. in his best "Urkel" voice, he will probably agree. ;)

Speaking of which..anybody have numbers on Hawk on TFL (tackles for loss) compared to some similarly positioned players in the NFL?

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

alharrisdude31
Registered

14 years ago

#39

use hawk for a trade, its all hes good for right now

I ride quads.
Youtube-kawimojave
Main channel

Dulak
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#40

Last season
- I really like barnett (till his injury)
- didnt like hawk - thought he was always late to the ball and he covered worse then a wet paper bag.
- Liked chillar alot even thou he had a few blown coverages (was aggressive).

This year
- dying to see bishop on the field; but hes getting no reps ... ya I know he did well in preseason and its not the same as reg. season. But lets get him some reps come on ... just to see how he does. When you are up 20+ on detroit; its time to stick in some guys just to see what they can do.
and ya my perception could change if he say plays for 20 snaps and is crap. (prefer a bigger sample thou).

- hawk ... actually doing better then last year IMO. See him around the ball more and appears to be more aggressive
- barnett - To be honest I think he's slow since his surgery; hes got alright coverage skills but as far as penetration or rushing the passer. Much worse then all our other backs.
- Chillar - still doing quiet well; and shined vs chicago. Got played vs MN since he was lined up a wideout and they were playing him like a safety (obviously he might not be able to cover a WR that well). Still key to this defense thou IMO.
- Kampman - Doing a adequate job considering what the coaches are calling him to do. If only they would let him rush the passer more.
- Matthews - star of our LB core so far IMO. Great start for the guy's first season. Great pass rusher and go getter. Got to love the AP strip and score.

If it were me picking which backers play ...

Chillar on passing downs or on rushing downs/splitting time with hawk which is used more for running plays.

Bishop used for running downs and rushing downs; barnett when wanting another coverage guy. (again my opinion could change once I see bishop in some games) ... but the guy was a stud in preseason. Hello 2 int a sack and the most tackles out of all players.

Important Information:

The PACKERSHOME uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. More Details Close

Fan Shout

Martha Careful (4h) : Amen Z2C, I hope all of you fathers have a terrific Fathers' Day. Be great fathers!!!

Zero2Cool (5h) : Happy Father's Day to the dad's

Zero2Cool (14-Jun) : YOU BROKE IT

buckeyepackfan (14-Jun) : Welcome to "The Dead Zone" may the only Packer News we hear is positive!!

buckeyepackfan (14-Jun) : Trevor Lawrence-5yr 275mil-200mil guaranteed. J-10VE is next.

Mucky Tundra (13-Jun) : @AaronWilson_NFL #Packers have signed first-round pick Jordan Morgan to $14.185 million deal that includes $7.135 million signing bonus

jdlax (11-Jun) : Hahaha hellllllll no, Sunday is king! It's those Thursday night games that hurt

Mucky Tundra (11-Jun) : @AndyHermanNFL Looks like Tucker Kraft is out of the sling. Progress!

Zero2Cool (11-Jun) : That's also my oldests birthday

Zero2Cool (11-Jun) : Thought it was I fucking hate SNF. I went what why it's consistently way better than any other game

Zero2Cool (11-Jun) : Whoa. I read that so wrong before Jared lol

wpr (10-Jun) : that's great jdlax

jdlax (10-Jun) : God I hate the Shithawks

jdlax (10-Jun) : Sunday Night fucking Football

jdlax (10-Jun) : I just got my tickets to represent in Seattle December 15th woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Martha Careful (9-Jun) : I really enjoyed game 1 of the Stanley Cup final. Sergei Bobrovsky G - FL was incredibly good.

Mucky Tundra (4-Jun) : *NFL

Mucky Tundra (4-Jun) : @ByRyanWood Pads or no pads, welcome to the N

Mucky Tundra (4-Jun) : @ByRyanWood Rashan Gary just steamrolled Jordan Morgan on a bull rush. Drove right over him to the ground.

Mucky Tundra (3-Jun) : God and a lot of money brought Reggie to GB

Mucky Tundra (3-Jun) : yep. became the highest paid defensive player in the league and 3rd highest behind Elway and Marino

Zero2Cool (3-Jun) : Packers signed second-round pick Javon Bullard

Zero2Cool (3-Jun) : Reggie White got something like 4 years $17m total right?

buckeyepackfan (3-Jun) : 110mil guaranteed!!!

Zero2Cool (3-Jun) : Justin Jefferson. 4/$140m ??? wow

Mucky Tundra (31-May) : @AndyHermanNFL Sean Rhyan getting some reps at center in walkthroughs. They are rotating guys everywhere.

Mucky Tundra (31-May) : or that might have been an individual drill thing

Mucky Tundra (31-May) : that was from the 29th but I've seen other combs (including Rhyan@C)

Mucky Tundra (31-May) : @ByRyanWood Without Elgton Jenkins and Zach Tom, #Packers starting OL: Rasheed Walker, Jordan Morgan, Josh Myers, Sean Rhyan, Andre Dillard.

Martha Careful (31-May) : I have never seen an OTA, but who is lining up at LT and RG with starters? or is it all individual drills?

Zero2Cool (30-May) : Bears are the first team to be selected for Hard Knocks

dfosterf (29-May) : Andy Herman and his Pack a day podcast put up GB strengths yesterday. This morning he did weaknesses. They are both very good.

Zero2Cool (25-May) : Yes.

beast (24-May) : Does he say what it is?

Zero2Cool (22-May) : Christian Watson believes he has discovered the root cause his soft-tissue leg injuries

Zero2Cool (22-May) : Savage played last half of season with tear in rotator cuff

Zero2Cool (22-May) : SISSIES!!!!

Mucky Tundra (22-May) : Sounds like both Kraft and Tom were injuried before OTAs began

buckeyepackfan (22-May) : Not serious but waiting for strength and conditioning coach referwnces.

buckeyepackfan (22-May) : Tom and Kraft both injured(pectoral muscle),

Zero2Cool (20-May) : I feel similar about person and product/service.

beast (17-May) : Not sure why a players views reflect on GB... instead of simply on the player

Martha Careful (17-May) : I bet some of us have had 6+ mRNA jabs, a UKR flag on our walls, and still think Fauci has a thread of integrity

Zero2Cool (16-May) : From what I've read, it's all Jets , not us.

CanPackFan (16-May) : Will there ever be a time when Rodgers' whacko views will not reflect on GB? He is the past, thank god.

Zero2Cool (16-May) : Jan 4th gonna be rough with that start time lol

Zero2Cool (16-May) : Packers schedule listed. Boom.

buckeyepackfan (15-May) : Let the leaks begin. Colts @ Packers week 2, Vikings @ Packers week 4

Zero2Cool (14-May) : WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling to Bills

Zero2Cool (14-May) : Jets and Aaron Rodgers open up on Monday Night Football,

Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2024 Packers Schedule

Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM

Eagles

Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM

COLTS

Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM

Titans

Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM

VIKINGS

Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM

Rams

Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM

CARDINALS

Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM

TEXANS

Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM

Jaguars

Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM

LIONS

Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM

Bears

Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM

49ERS

Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM

DOLPHINS

Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM

Lions

Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM

Seahawks

Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM

SAINTS

Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM

Vikings

Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM

BEARS