Zero2Cool
14 years ago
http://packersnews.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20110205/PKR01/110205031/Packers-foundation-for-success-follows-1990s-model 

DALLAS Theres the general manager who sticks to his convictions, the head coach who turns quarterbacks into stars, the quarterback with the rocket arm and the defensive star who makes game-changing plays.

They are the foundation of the Green Bay Packers then and now.

In the 1990s, it was Ron Wolf, the cutthroat general manager; Mike Holmgren, the coach who brought the quarterback-friendly West coast offense to the Midwest; Brett Favre, the gunslinger quarterback; and Reggie White, the free-agent savior of the defense. That combination won a Super Bowl, lost a Super Bowl and resurrected a franchise before one major decision by a key member of the foursome derailed what could have been a dynasty.

Those were our cornerstones, said Bob Harlan, the Packers president from 1989 to 2008. That was huge for us through the 90s with those four as the foundation.

Now, with the Packers back in the Super Bowl today against the Pittsburgh Steelers at Cowboys Stadium, its another quartet of power players leading the franchise. Its Ted Thompson, the general manager who studied under Wolf and steadfastly holds to his belief of building through the draft; Mike McCarthy, the coach known for his work with quarterbacks; Aaron Rodgers, the quarterback with MVP-like production; and Charles Woodson, the free-agent defensive star.

Its pretty darn close, Thompson said. Most of the things we do, the attitude we take, the way we draft is all exactly (the same). We were all trained by Ron Wolf.

In many ways, Harlans fingerprints can be found all over both eras. When he hired Ron Wolf in 1991, he knew the organization needed a major structural change. Less a month after Wolf took over, he fired coach Lindy Infante and hired Holmgren, who was the San Francisco 49ers offensive coordinator. A month later, Wolf traded a first-round draft pick to Atlanta for Favre. A year later, he lured White in what at the time was the biggest free-agent signing in the NFL.

When sweeping changes were needed more than a decade later, Harlan turned to Thompson, who had followed Holmgren to Seattle to run the personnel department with the Seahawks. Thompson, in turn, fired coach Mike Sherman as coach a year later and hired McCarthy, who was the San Francisco 49ers offensive coordinator. Two years later, Thompson and McCarthy made the decision to dump Favre and go with Rodgers, who Thompson picked in the first round of the 2005 draft.

I admire that organization, said former Dallas Cowboys personnel man Gil Brandt, who now works for NFL.com. They dont sit still.

A dynasty destroyed

When the Packers went to back-to-back Super Bowls following the 1996 and 1997 seasons, winning number XXXI over New England and losing number XXXII to Denver, the Packers seemed to be built for the long haul. Wolf still had a zest for the job, and Favre had another decade-plus of football in him. Though White was nearing the end of his career, there were a number of younger defensive stars on the rise.

Ron and I used to talk about what happened in the 90s and he and I agree, that team in the 90s was good enough to win two and maybe three (Super Bowls), Harlan said. We should have beaten Denver, and we should have gone back to another one, and we didnt.

Holmgrens desire for more power rocked the organization. After the 1998 season ended with a first-round playoff loss at San Francisco, Holmgren jumped at the chance to be both a coach and general manager and took $8 million a year to do so for the Seahawks.

We were very surprised when Holmgren made that move, Harlan said. I didnt see that coming, and I dont think Ron Wolf saw it coming. But to lose Holmgren was a big factor. That was a separation in the organization that we didnt need.

A dynasty in the making

Theres no way to know how success will change the key parties involved in this run to the Super Bowl, but Thompson is a youthful 58, and Harlan believes he will finish his career in his current job. Barring injury, Rodgers looks like a top-five quarterback for another six, eight or 10 years. While Woodson, the 2009 NFL defensive player of the year, will turn 35 in October, the Packers have another budding superstar on that side of the ball in second-year linebacker Clay Matthews, who was defensive player of the year runner up this season.

Then theres McCarthy. Hes 47 years old and married to a Green Bay girl. He and his wife, Jessica, are expecting their second child together on Aug. 4. He doesnt appear to seek the attention or the organizational power that Holmgren did.

I dont see him making the same move that Holmgren made, Harlan said. Thats a tough thing to do. That really is taxing. Just being a head coach is difficult enough. I just dont foresee that coming with Mike McCarthy.

McCarthy came up differently than Holmgren, who was perhaps the hottest coaching commodity when Wolf hired him. McCarthy, on the other hand, wasnt a household name and had interviewed for only one other head coaching job before Thompson hired him.

I told Ted, I really thought you could make a better choice than that, Brandt said. I wasnt really sold on McCarthy. Then I went to (training) camp up there for three days and about the second day I was there, I said, You know what, you made the right choice.

Both McCarthy and Thompson have two years remaining on their contacts. Team president Mark Murphy, who hired neither of them, said he preferred to wait until after the Super Bowl to discuss whether extension are possible. If the Packers are to keep their core together, such deals will be essential.

The two eras were built similarly, Harlan said. Its always great when the GM has picked his own coach. That was huge with Ron, and thats huge with Ted. When he hired Mike McCarthy, he said he never wanted to go through another coaching search again.

"ROB DEMOVSKY" wrote:


UserPostedImage
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (2h) : Packers sign CB Corey Ballentine
Zero2Cool (11h) : I'm not sure how to kill the draft order just yet so it's not so confusing.
Mucky Tundra (21h) : *to be able
Mucky Tundra (21h) : and because it's not a dynasty league (which makes a lot more sense to be ability to trade picks)
Mucky Tundra (21h) : Oh I know; I was just exploring and it blew my mind that you could trade picks because of the whole reordering thing
Mucky Tundra (21h) : Zero, I think I preferred my offer: your 1st for my 15th rounder
Zero2Cool (22h) : Keep in mind, we do a draft reorder once all members locked in
Zero2Cool (22h) : You can have my 12th Rd for your 2nd round
Mucky Tundra (23h) : Hey i didn't know we could trade picks in fantasy
Mucky Tundra (3-Aug) : Update: Rock has tried a cheese curd, promises it's not his last
Zero2Cool (3-Aug) : watch it!! lol
Mucky Tundra (3-Aug) : you're right, we never did leave, the site just went down :P
Mucky Tundra (3-Aug) : Rock claims to have never eaten a cheese curd
Zero2Cool (3-Aug) : We did not leave.
Mucky Tundra (3-Aug) : Family Night! WE ARE SO BACK!
Mucky Tundra (2-Aug) : To this day, I'm still miffed about his 4 TD game against Dallas on Thanksgiving going to waste
Martha Careful (2-Aug) : Congratulations Sterling Sharpe. He was terrific and I loved watching him play.
beast (2-Aug) : I believe it's technically against the CBA rules, but Jerry just calls it a simple unofficial chat... and somehow gets away with it.
beast (2-Aug) : Jerry Jones is infamous for ̶n̶e̶g̶o̶t̶i̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ chatting with players one on one... and going around the agent.
Mucky Tundra (1-Aug) : Oo just saw a blurb saying that Dallas negotiated directly with Parsons and not through his agent
Mucky Tundra (1-Aug) : I assumed that both guys will get paid, just a matter of when or how we get there
Zero2Cool (1-Aug) : McLaurin nor Micah going anywhere. They will get money
Mucky Tundra (1-Aug) : the Synder years or do they take care of one of their own?
Mucky Tundra (1-Aug) : Do the Commanders risk losing a top WR with an emerging QB just because he's turning 30 and potentially risk damaging the rebuild from
Mucky Tundra (1-Aug) : Turns 30 this September, plays at a high level and Washington has some cap space I believe
Mucky Tundra (1-Aug) : More interesting is Washington with Terry McLaurin
Mucky Tundra (1-Aug) : I would imagine Dallas will resolve this issue with a truckload of money
Zero2Cool (1-Aug) : Micah pulling a Myles with trade request
beast (1-Aug) : Packers should make some cheese forks
Mucky Tundra (31-Jul) : GRAB THE PITCHFORKS~
Zero2Cool (31-Jul) : CUT HIM
Mucky Tundra (31-Jul) : Socieltal collapse imminent
Mucky Tundra (31-Jul) : The West has fallen
Mucky Tundra (31-Jul) : After starting off camp with 25 straight made field goals, Brandon McManus has missed one
Zero2Cool (31-Jul) : But it should be stable
Zero2Cool (31-Jul) : It's probably gonna be slower.
Zero2Cool (31-Jul) : We're gonna just full go on to the new host.
Zero2Cool (31-Jul) : What crap. Site issues galore
Zero2Cool (30-Jul) : if PH dies, there is packerpeople com available
Zero2Cool (30-Jul) : database is on new host, eventually website will follow
Mucky Tundra (30-Jul) : Zero, regarding Ewers, you are correct.
Zero2Cool (30-Jul) : Sadly, this might be our life for awhile. I could put it on another host, but seems it was slower, although more stable
beast (30-Jul) : How long will it be down?
beast (30-Jul) : RIP site 😭
Zero2Cool (30-Jul) : Site will die, I have to restart it.
Zero2Cool (30-Jul) : Quinn stinks. Lot of underthrows. (my guess)
beast (30-Jul) : How did Quinn Ewers effect where Golden was drafted?
dfosterf (30-Jul) : All I've experienced was late at night or early morning. I just figured you were doing something in the background
Zero2Cool (30-Jul) : Site sure seems to be down more than up
dfosterf (29-Jul) : 50 cent hookers? I'm moving to Green Bay. I thought it was just real estate that was more affordable there. 😂
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2025 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
COMMANDERS
Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
Browns
Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
Cardinals
Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
PANTHERS
Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
EAGLES
Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
Giants
Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
Bears
Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
RAVENS
Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
Vikings
Recent Topics
2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

3h / Fantasy Sports Talk / packerfanoutwest

3-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

3-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

3-Aug / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Zero2Cool

2-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

2-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

28-Jul / Random Babble / Zero2Cool

28-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

28-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

27-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

27-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

25-Jul / Around The NFL / Mucky Tundra

25-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.