James Jones Agrees to new deal· Page 3

Pack93z
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14 years ago

I really don't see why. We drafted Cobb to replace Jones, at least partially. There's no way we're going to be able to have Jennings, Driver, Nelson, Jones, Cobb and Finley regularly on the field, like all of them should be.

Originally Posted by: Packers_Finland

To bank on a combo type player coming into the league and making an impact is a high risk IMO.. Driver struggled with injuries last season and had to leave the Superbowl.. the biggest game of his career and reportedly it was worse than many let on. That is yet another risk.

IMO, signing Jones to a mid range type deal, three years, will protect yourself somewhat if he doesn't continue to develop.

And it allows us to continue to spread the field out with 4 very competent receivers and potentially more if Cobb is on an accelerated path.. most don't develop till years 2 to 3.. so 4 wides and Finley would give people fits.

Another reason would be that Jones is the most physical receiver we have and statistically one of our best post catch. If Finley goes down, Jones still gives us a physical element that the others don't.

Personally, I think this was our most important keep of our free agents.. with Jenkins maybe two.

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Tezzy
Senior Member

14 years ago

#22

Why should a rookie be on the field? After all he's a rookie... gotta earn your way up...

He'll start as the return guy and the others will be a part of the big 5. What might be harder is splitting up time between Driver, Jones and Nelson... and keeping them all happy (because they won't be)... but gotta go with the hot hand...

Also does this mean less likely to resign Finley and/or Nelson next year?

Originally Posted by: beast

They split time last season and won the Super Bowl. Why are you assuming they won't be happy if they do it again the same exact way?

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Greg C.
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14 years ago

#23

Originally Posted by: Packers_Finland

If Ted had drafted Cobb to replace Jones, he would not have re-signed Jones. If Cobb was drafted to replace anyone, it's Driver. This year, Cobb will replace Swain. There will be a bit of a log jam, with as many as five high quality WRs on the team, but Ted doesn't draft players because of what they can contribute as rookies, he drafts them for the long term. The interesting question now is whether they can re-sign Jordy Nelson after next season. But there's a lot of football to be played before then.

I'm glad to have Jones back. I hated the thought of him going to a division rival, or even a conference rival.

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all_about_da_packers
Senior Member

14 years ago

#24

Originally Posted by: Packers_Finland

I think someone like Cobb you'd prefer to play out of the slot rather than outside. Jones has the tools and body to be effective on the outside - and he has been, to be fair.

We do look pretty crowded at WR, but that can change in an instant. Like 93z said, Driver is coming off a serious injury, an year in which he was less than great, and frankly his age will catch up to him sooner rather than later. Then with Finley, he has been injured each of his last two seasons.

Cobb could turn out to be pretty damn awesome, but I think he'll need time to get there especially since the lockout has affected the rookies getting to learn the playbook. Jones, meanwhile, provides us a pretty good option at WR and is a damn fine insurance policy. I'd have preferred Jenkins be back ahead of Jones, but I'm pretty glad Jones came back. Can't wait to see a Packers' receivers vs. Eagles' secondary match-up.

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beast
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14 years ago

#25

Another reason would be that Jones is the most physical receiver we have and statistically one of our best post catch. If Finley goes down, Jones still gives us a physical element that the others don't.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z

Hmmm you'd have to define physical for me to agree to that... Nelson IMO is the best blocking WR we have. But I think you mean physical route runner, which I would agree. Though I wonder why isn't Nelson a more physical route runner.

musccy
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#26

pack93z hit the nail on the head.

I see this as more of a move to cover for Driver and our depth.

No doubt if you have all 4, Finley, and Cobb HEALTHY, then there isn't much room, but we don't know what to expect from Driver coming off 2 major injuries last year and being 36 y.o, or what to expect from Cobb yet.

Jones can have mind-numbing lapses of focus, but can also be a tremendous possession receiver and make great catches (td vs. falcons in playoffs). This gives Cobb a year or two to develop as Driver winds down and gives the Pack the best depth at this position in the entire league.

Pack93z
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14 years ago

#27

Originally Posted by: beast

Yes as a receiver...

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beast
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14 years ago

#28

They split time last season and won the Super Bowl. Why are you assuming they won't be happy if they do it again the same exact way?

Originally Posted by: Tezzy

Because Jones has said he really wants to start and he's not happy about being the back-up (he even tried to sign with the Vikings for a starting spot...)

Why are you assuming they were happy last year? Driver had injures, Jones wasn't starting... don't know anything about Nelson being unhappy. But they might of been unhappy about splitting time last year as well...

Also Jones was at the Packers draft party when they drafted Nelson and it's reported he was shaking his head and softly asked "why"... that's been a while but I think it's clear they all would like more playing time on the field.. and less time splitting... of course they also want to win...

Pack93z
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14 years ago

#29

IMO.. in the Packers system is there really a starting receiver past Jennings? They all had about the same percentage of targets from Rodgers, Driver, Jones and Nelson that is.. all 5 are interchangeable in the scheme.. and they all can make plays.

I think that starter label for Packers receivers these days are more myth and ego than fact. IMO.

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beast
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14 years ago

#30

Yes as a receiver...

Originally Posted by: Pack93z

I knew what you meant (or thought so and said it)... but as a blocker I'd say Nelson was the most physical. Also that pick happened in the preseason didn't it? How about one from a in season game? 👅

Also we might have a more physical receiver... and he's caught everything that has come his way...
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