beast
13 years ago

I thought about including those guys, and possibly Darryn Colledge as well, but at least they've contributed SOMETHING, and it also helps that they were part of a Super Bowl winning team, even if they were bit players.

I think Brohm has been Thompson's only complete bust in the second round. Lee is close, but there is still a glimmer of hope for him. His best second rounder by far has been Greg Jennings, followed by Nick Collins and Jordy Nelson. We'll never know what would have become of Terrence Murphy (#58 overall in 2006), the WR whose career ended before it could get started, due to a spinal injury.

Originally Posted by: Greg C. 



Colledge started for years... I don't think he should be listed as a mistake.

After Collins went down I wondered about the idea of moving Pat Lee to Safety to see if he can make the switch. He doesn't seem to be going anywhere at CB... some players can make the switch... of course the ones that do normally have to start sooner than the Packers have with trying to get players to make the switch... but Lee has been good in zone and a willing hitter... two important things of Safeties.

To me Murphy was VERY VERY raw... but looked to have as much raw potential as Jennings... and maybe more... I think Jennings quick rise to the top (since he picked everything up so fast) would of had him over Murphy early on... but Murphy potential might of bursted...
UserPostedImage
Greg C.
13 years ago

Colledge started for years... I don't think he should be listed as a mistake.

After Collins went down I wondered about the idea of moving Pat Lee to Safety to see if he can make the switch. He doesn't seem to be going anywhere at CB... some players can make the switch... of course the ones that do normally have to start sooner than the Packers have with trying to get players to make the switch... but Lee has been good in zone and a willing hitter... two important things of Safeties.

To me Murphy was VERY VERY raw... but looked to have as much raw potential as Jennings... and maybe more... I think Jennings quick rise to the top (since he picked everything up so fast) would of had him over Murphy early on... but Murphy potential might of bursted...

Originally Posted by: beast 


Colledge started, but he did not play up to the level that you would hope for a second round pick. They were always looking for someone to beat him out. I agree that Colledge was not a mistake, though. He was just somewhat disappointing.

I like your idea of moving Pat Lee to safety. It would be an interesting thing to try.
blank
Greg C.
13 years ago
Some people have mentioned the failed return man, Cory Rodgers. He was drafted in the fourth round in 2006 and did not survive training camp. I've always wondered if the coaching staff had a hand in that failure. Special teams coach Mike Stock made Rodgers catch the ball differently on punt returns. His original style was a bit unconventional and was thought to create a greater risk of turnovers. Rodgers never adapted to catching the ball in the conventional style. He dropped punt after punt in training camp, even though he had had no problem catching punts in college. The fans were booing him in practice. I always thought that maybe the coaches should've backed off and waited till he got more comfortable in the NFL before messing with his mechanics.

By contrast, I liked the way that they handled the other Rodgers (Aaron), who had an unconventional way of holding the ball when he was in the pocket. He held it way up by his ear, creating a risk for fumbles. Instead of trying to coach it out of him, the coaches decided to let this habit disappear naturally, and it did.

I don't know enough about football to say for sure that the coaches did the wrong thing with Cory Rodgers. Maybe other NFL coaches would've done the same thing, and maybe Rodgers just needed to man up and catch the damn ball. But especially in light of the other special teams problems during Mike Stock's tenure in Green Bay, I can't help but wonder if a good prospect was ruined by overcoaching.
blank
Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Colledge started for years... I don't think he should be listed as a mistake.

Originally Posted by: beast 

The mistake wasn't drafting Daryn Colledge, obviously it was letting him sign with another team that was the mistake. Probably Ted Thompson's biggest mistake to date. Well, other than not listening to Brett Favre's advice on whom to sign to the roster of course.

UserPostedImage
PackerTraxx
13 years ago
I didn't like the Harrell pick from the get go because of his injury history. However, once I learned more about it, it seemed to make more sense. If you can't make a good trade and there's a gap with the others choices the risk seemed worth it. I can live with that.

I never had a problem with the Brohm pick. Had he come out his Jr. year he would have been a high #1. It looked like great value. If he had been as good as most people thought he was it could have easily turned into a good trade for a #1 and more.

Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?
nerdmann
13 years ago

Some people have mentioned the failed return man, Cory Rodgers. He was drafted in the fourth round in 2006 and did not survive training camp. I've always wondered if the coaching staff had a hand in that failure. Special teams coach Mike Stock made Rodgers catch the ball differently on punt returns. His original style was a bit unconventional and was thought to create a greater risk of turnovers. Rodgers never adapted to catching the ball in the conventional style. He dropped punt after punt in training camp, even though he had had no problem catching punts in college. The fans were booing him in practice. I always thought that maybe the coaches should've backed off and waited till he got more comfortable in the NFL before messing with his mechanics.

By contrast, I liked the way that they handled the other Rodgers (Aaron), who had an unconventional way of holding the ball when he was in the pocket. He held it way up by his ear, creating a risk for fumbles. Instead of trying to coach it out of him, the coaches decided to let this habit disappear naturally, and it did.

I don't know enough about football to say for sure that the coaches did the wrong thing with Cory Rodgers. Maybe other NFL coaches would've done the same thing, and maybe Rodgers just needed to man up and catch the damn ball. But especially in light of the other special teams problems during Mike Stock's tenure in Green Bay, I can't help but wonder if a good prospect was ruined by overcoaching.

Originally Posted by: Greg C. 




The problem with Stock, iirc was that he just wasn't a good coach. The reason he had a job was that he was the guy who would report back to Sherman what people would say when he wasn't around. Didn't they "announce" he was retiring, yet he was still around the team for another year or two?
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Stevetarded
13 years ago
Brohm to me is a worse pick than Harrell. He was "just" a 2nd rounder but at least Harrell had an excuse for why he couldn't contribute. Brohm was just a rotten player. That's a complete breakdown in scouting somewhere for them to take him that high.
blank
tromadz
13 years ago
It's still my penis.
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (2h) : I'm not sure how to kill the draft order just yet so it's not so confusing.
Mucky Tundra (12h) : *to be able
Mucky Tundra (12h) : and because it's not a dynasty league (which makes a lot more sense to be ability to trade picks)
Mucky Tundra (12h) : Oh I know; I was just exploring and it blew my mind that you could trade picks because of the whole reordering thing
Mucky Tundra (12h) : Zero, I think I preferred my offer: your 1st for my 15th rounder
Zero2Cool (13h) : Keep in mind, we do a draft reorder once all members locked in
Zero2Cool (13h) : You can have my 12th Rd for your 2nd round
Mucky Tundra (14h) : Hey i didn't know we could trade picks in fantasy
Mucky Tundra (3-Aug) : Update: Rock has tried a cheese curd, promises it's not his last
Zero2Cool (3-Aug) : watch it!! lol
Mucky Tundra (3-Aug) : you're right, we never did leave, the site just went down :P
Mucky Tundra (3-Aug) : Rock claims to have never eaten a cheese curd
Zero2Cool (3-Aug) : We did not leave.
Mucky Tundra (3-Aug) : Family Night! WE ARE SO BACK!
Mucky Tundra (2-Aug) : To this day, I'm still miffed about his 4 TD game against Dallas on Thanksgiving going to waste
Martha Careful (2-Aug) : Congratulations Sterling Sharpe. He was terrific and I loved watching him play.
beast (2-Aug) : I believe it's technically against the CBA rules, but Jerry just calls it a simple unofficial chat... and somehow gets away with it.
beast (2-Aug) : Jerry Jones is infamous for ̶n̶e̶g̶o̶t̶i̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ chatting with players one on one... and going around the agent.
Mucky Tundra (1-Aug) : Oo just saw a blurb saying that Dallas negotiated directly with Parsons and not through his agent
Mucky Tundra (1-Aug) : I assumed that both guys will get paid, just a matter of when or how we get there
Zero2Cool (1-Aug) : McLaurin nor Micah going anywhere. They will get money
Mucky Tundra (1-Aug) : the Synder years or do they take care of one of their own?
Mucky Tundra (1-Aug) : Do the Commanders risk losing a top WR with an emerging QB just because he's turning 30 and potentially risk damaging the rebuild from
Mucky Tundra (1-Aug) : Turns 30 this September, plays at a high level and Washington has some cap space I believe
Mucky Tundra (1-Aug) : More interesting is Washington with Terry McLaurin
Mucky Tundra (1-Aug) : I would imagine Dallas will resolve this issue with a truckload of money
Zero2Cool (1-Aug) : Micah pulling a Myles with trade request
beast (1-Aug) : Packers should make some cheese forks
Mucky Tundra (31-Jul) : GRAB THE PITCHFORKS~
Zero2Cool (31-Jul) : CUT HIM
Mucky Tundra (31-Jul) : Socieltal collapse imminent
Mucky Tundra (31-Jul) : The West has fallen
Mucky Tundra (31-Jul) : After starting off camp with 25 straight made field goals, Brandon McManus has missed one
Zero2Cool (31-Jul) : But it should be stable
Zero2Cool (31-Jul) : It's probably gonna be slower.
Zero2Cool (31-Jul) : We're gonna just full go on to the new host.
Zero2Cool (31-Jul) : What crap. Site issues galore
Zero2Cool (30-Jul) : if PH dies, there is packerpeople com available
Zero2Cool (30-Jul) : database is on new host, eventually website will follow
Mucky Tundra (30-Jul) : Zero, regarding Ewers, you are correct.
Zero2Cool (30-Jul) : Sadly, this might be our life for awhile. I could put it on another host, but seems it was slower, although more stable
beast (30-Jul) : How long will it be down?
beast (30-Jul) : RIP site 😭
Zero2Cool (30-Jul) : Site will die, I have to restart it.
Zero2Cool (30-Jul) : Quinn stinks. Lot of underthrows. (my guess)
beast (30-Jul) : How did Quinn Ewers effect where Golden was drafted?
dfosterf (30-Jul) : All I've experienced was late at night or early morning. I just figured you were doing something in the background
Zero2Cool (30-Jul) : Site sure seems to be down more than up
dfosterf (29-Jul) : 50 cent hookers? I'm moving to Green Bay. I thought it was just real estate that was more affordable there. 😂
Zero2Cool (29-Jul) : Sure seems site going down more than 50¢ hooker
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2025 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
COMMANDERS
Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
Browns
Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
Cardinals
Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
PANTHERS
Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
EAGLES
Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
Giants
Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
Bears
Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
RAVENS
Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
Vikings
Recent Topics
32m / Fantasy Sports Talk / dfosterf

21h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

23h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

3-Aug / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Zero2Cool

2-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

2-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

31-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

28-Jul / Random Babble / Zero2Cool

28-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

28-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

27-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

27-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

25-Jul / Around The NFL / Mucky Tundra

25-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

25-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / TheKanataThrilla

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.