No matter what we read, he is innocent until proven guilty.

I have known wife beaters. And I have known provokers. And I have known females who physically abuse males.

I will not pass judgment just yet.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 

I wish our legal system and our media believed that too. But when it comes to custody and domestic disputes, men are often treated almost like second class citizens. And our media just can't help but stir shit up and come to their own conclusions based on little to no evidence.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 

and THIS, my dear RP should be your first clue that perhaps you mis-wrote.
ok, kinda yankin yer chain but you're greatly diminishing that domestic violence does happen. and not ever fuckin woman in the world is out to get rich men in the way you described.
if that were true, no low down loser with not a pot to piss in would ever be accused of it.
your premise is that we don't know what happened so why even speculate that she's a money grubbing ho bag & he's a pristine angel?
sorry but ya done pissed me off with that one.

Originally Posted by: 4PackGirl 

I believe we the majority were meant for monogamy when it comes to heart. When it comes to touch, feel, and sex, outside of monogamy sure feels good. We were meant for pleasure. Monogamy often isn't enough.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 

Sorry my dear 4PackGirl, you need to take the cookies out of the oven, get out of the kitchen and read my post again. Very slowly.

No where did I state (Describe) that these women are after money. No Where! I stated this and only this.. "He is a professional athlete, women are all over them." I never even typed the word money. Fact is most of these women know it is not even going as far as toast and eggs in the morning.

Most of the women throwing themselves at a famous person just want to be able to say to their friends "I did so and so." My own sisters friend a girl I have known since she was a kid did 7 time MLB All Star Tim Raines . She knew he was married, she even bet the other girls at the table in the bar that she could do it. She was not looking for a cozy home and a BMW. She was looking for a badge she could wear on her lapel.

I also Did Not state that women do not get beaten. Damn right they do, and there are Millions of wife beaters. Your post is fucking slander is what it is. You are not even close to what I am, or how I feel about women.

Now... Back into the kitchen, off you go.

(See.. If you can presume I am an ass hole with no respect for women, well then I can presume you are clue less, barefoot, pregnant, and have no use out side of kitchen.)

Originally Posted by: RaiderPride 

no where did i say you were an ass hole with no respect for women, did i? well...did i? who is making presumptions now? hmmm?? lol.
i did say i was yankin yer chain a bit...sorry you failed to catch the sarcasm.
slander? seriously? laughable.

Originally Posted by: 4PackGirl 

Just when I thought I couldn't dislike Walden more.

But we'll see where this goes,etc,etc..

Am I alone in thinking Walden is mediocre at best? His play the last couple months is just awful. He has the overpuruit of Nick Barnett, the tackling of Brady Poppinga, the pass coverage of Aaron Kampman, and the speed of BJ Raji.

I think this is his last year here. Ted Thompson will likely draft a couple LBs this year and he's gone.

Originally Posted by: tromadz 

Any man who deminishes the fact that women are being abused, and thinks that all women are gold diggers is an ass hole, and also has no respect for women.

If someone says I am doing that, in my mind that would make me an ass hole with no respect for women.

I am not angry, nor upset. I personally enjoy your personality and posts. Let me make that clear.

Now.. On to The Raiders beating the crap out of the Bears for the next two and a half hours.

Originally Posted by: RaiderPride 

Based on what the eye can see, Walden would seem to be mediocre... but the stats surprisingly tell a different story. Evidently, when you start using stats like rushes, QB hits, pressures... Walden has been pretty damn impressive.

I know, I know, it's hard to come away thinking that by simply watching him. But he's pushing Clay in some pressuring statistics, which is pretty damn surprising since Clay is not playing bad or anything like that. And Bob McGinn, whose probably one of, if not the most, reliable beat writers when it comes to evaluating game tape has had pretty impressive things to say about Walden's performances the past month.

I guess perception doesn't match reality with Walden...? I am not saying Walden is the best thing since sliced bread, because watching him play makes that clear; he simply does not stand out much outside of high effort. But according to the stats... Walden is putting up comparable production to Claymaker... which is very surprising. I'm honestly not sure what to think of Walden.

Originally Posted by: all_about_da_packers 

He's got ok skills, but I think he has a great motor. Never stops coming.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann