play2win
11 years ago

We stack up Richard Rodgers (and Colt Lyerla) athletically with the rest of the tight ends who were drafted last month.

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Mucky Tundra
11 years ago
So uh, P2W, do you have a subscription or did you just create the topic based off the description in the news section?
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play2win
11 years ago

So uh, P2W, do you have a subscription or did you just create the topic based off the description in the news section?

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



Uh, I have a subscription, but I hit the wrong button.

It is nothing special. For all the measureables from Combine, Rodgers is essentially ranked 5th out of all the TEs drafted.

“Richard is pretty much the kid that I saw on tape,” Fontenot said. “He’s a technician. He’s very good with his feet. He has got good speed for his size. He’s playing at about 270 pounds right now. He’s very limber, he’s got good range of motion and he’s strong at the point of attack in run blocking.”



Had Lyerla been drafted, he would have ranked 3rd in the 40, last in the bench press, but first in all the rest of the categories.
Zero2Cool
11 years ago

So uh, P2W, do you have a subscription or did you just create the topic based off the description in the news section?

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



Hmm, wonder how that got in there. Maybe this is why I didn't have this source earlier.
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play2win
11 years ago

Hmm, wonder how that got in there. Maybe this is why I didn't have this source earlier.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Yeah, I was surprised to see that there. Anyhow, here is another piece there on the TEs:


In a draft that featured a bumper crop of prospects at most positions, the tight end position was practically a barren wasteland.
That was bad news for the Green Bay Packers, who entered the draft needing to add an impact tight end with Jermichael Finley’s uncertain future with the team.
In the first round, Eric Ebron went No. 10 to Detroit.
In the second round, Austin Seferian-Jenkins went No. 38 to Tampa Bay. Jace Amaro, a glorified receiver, went No. 49 to the Jets. Troy Niklas, a former defensive player with limited value in the passing game, went No. 52 to the Cardinals. That was one spot before the Packers took receiver Davante Adams at No. 53.
With the first pick of the third round, Houston grabbed Iowa’s C.J. Fiedorowicz.
And that was it until the Packers took Richard Rodgers with their third-round compensatory pick, No. 98 overall.
With the next selection, Baltimore took another tight end, Crockett Gillmore, at No. 99.
That would be the last tight end off the board for a whopping 56 selections. Arthur Lynch went to Miami at No. 155. It would be an even longer wait for the next tight end, with Ted Bolser going to Washington at No. 217. Rob Branchflower was the 10th and final tight end selected, going to Pittsburgh at No. 230.
To put that in perspective, 16 tight ends were selected in 2013 (with six in the first three rounds), 11 in 2012 (three in first three rounds), 12 in 2011 (three in first three rounds), 20 in 2010 (five in first three rounds), 20 in 2009 (five in first three rounds) and 16 in 2008 (including Finley as the last of the seven tight ends selected in the first three rounds).
For Green Bay, the board never lined up with its selections in the first two rounds. So, in the third round, the Packers had their choice of the two top remaining tight ends.
Did they make the right call? Yes, based on what they’re potentially losing in Finley.
“It all depended on what I needed,” the NFL’s head scout, Dave-Te’ Thomas, said. “If I needed a blocker, I’m definitely going for Gillmore. If I needed a receiver, I’ve got to go for Rodgers because the kid’s got a great pass-catching radius. My knock on him is he’s not going to block worth a squat for me.”
Thomas wasn’t high on Rodgers; then again, he wasn’t high on any of this year’s tight ends beyond Seferian-Jenkins. In his role with the NFL, he projected Rodgers as a sixth-round selection.
So far, however, the Packers seem thrilled with Rodgers, an early entrant who played as an oversized slot receiver in Cal’s spread offense last season. It’s that background that could make him an asset in a tight end group that lacks much proven punch in the passing game.
“I think he really has” benefitted from playing as a receiver in college, coach Mike McCarthy said. “I think any time you take a tight end or any position and you get to play in more of a play-action, in-line offense and have the ability to move into the backfield, and then have the ability to play in space, it’s definitely an education opportunity. And I think it really highlighted his skill-set.”
Of course, it’s far too early to render any verdicts on Rodgers. With his lack of speed and athleticism (4.87 in the 40, 31.5-inch vertical at the Scouting Combine), can Rodgers separate from the NFL’s safeties and linebackers? Is he tough enough and willing enough to block?
These offseason practices shed little light on those questions. Rodgers, however, made one of the plays of the spring by making a one-handed catch of a deflected pass that fluttered behind him and over his head on Thursday.
“He's made a lot of plays,” quarterback Aaron Rodgers said. “Matt (Flynn) and I were just talking about it, how when we made the pick some of the so-called experts on the draft channel said he was a late sixth-round pick. Which is pretty laughable when you watch the talent he's got and the ability, especially some of the plays he made today. Again, it's helmet and shorts, but you have to be excited about his body type and the hands. He's made some incredible catches, makes it look easy. I think he's going to push for some playing time if he can transfer what he's done in the spring now to the fall and have the potential to be an impact player.”

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11 years ago
You can't measure or compare players until the put on their jock shoulder pads and helmet and step on to the field on 9-4-14. Until then nothing else matters. I don't care if one guy is 2 inches taller or is .10 seconds faster in the 40. none of that really matters.
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play2win
11 years ago

You can't measure or compare players until the put on their jock shoulder pads and helmet and step on to the field on 9-4-14. Until then nothing else matters. I don't care if one guy is 2 inches taller or is .10 seconds faster in the 40. none of that really matters.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Right. Could not agree more wpr.

It really is kind of funny. Too much prognostication based on numbers. All I know is we have added some athletic pass catchers for Aaron to throw to.

Rodgers didn't have great numbers in the drills, but he has experience in running multiple routes and has good hands, to go along with a pretty sound football pedigree.

Lyerla has the numbers from the drills, but lacks a lot of recent experience. While he is physically gifted, it may take him a little longer than it might take Rodgers to get up to speed. Then again, maybe not. We just won't know till the games really start and we see them play live ball.

I did find it interesting the entire draft class at TE was only 9 players... That is a very lean year.
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11 years ago

Right. Could not agree more wpr.

It really is kind of funny. Too much prognostication based on numbers. All I know is we have added some athletic pass catchers for Aaron to throw to.

Rodgers didn't have great numbers in the drills, but he has experience in running multiple routes and has good hands, to go along with a pretty sound football pedigree.

Lyerla has the numbers from the drills, but lacks a lot of recent experience. While he is physically gifted, it may take him a little longer than it might take Rodgers to get up to speed. Then again, maybe not. We just won't know till the games really start and we see them play live ball.

I did find it interesting the entire draft class at TE was only 9 players... That is a very lean year.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



wasn't complaining about you. Just find the excessive talk and projections tedious. Renaldo Nehemiah proves that a person can have all the speed and athleticism in the world and still stink at football.
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nerdmann
11 years ago
If he ran that 4.87 at 270 lbs, I'd say that's some pretty good speed. And at that weight, I would think he'd be able to block halfway decently.
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play2win
11 years ago

wasn't complaining about you. Just find the excessive talk and projections tedious. Renaldo Nehemiah proves that a person can have all the speed and athleticism in the world and still stink at football.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



No, I didn't take it that way and I agree numbers are indeed tedious in terms of workouts, projections, etc. The only numbers that will matter are production on the field. We are going to have to wait and see. I do think what we currently have on our roster is promising at TE.
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