all_about_da_packers
10 years ago

Yup...as a SAFETY.That's the disconnect.He's a fine prospect at...SAFETY.He's a reach at CB in a draft Silverstein called "deep" for the position.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Is it still a reach if Randall was doing in college exactly what he will be asked to at slot CB? Because he often did cover the slot receiver 1-on-1 as he will be asked to do at CB here.

As I mentioned above, when asked to cover the slot 1-on-1 in college Randall had very similar numbers to two CBs (Waynes and Peters) taken top-20.

Ted and the staff here are projecting Randall somewhat, but they have some data which suggests Randall was just as competent in coverage as other top CBs in this draft. Not sure that warrants a "reach at CB" comment.
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PackFanWithTwins
10 years ago

Is it still a reach if Randall was doing in college exactly what he will be asked to at slot CB? Because he often did cover the slot receiver 1-on-1 as he will be asked to do at CB here.

As I mentioned above, when asked to cover the slot 1-on-1 in college Randall had very similar numbers to two CBs (Waynes and Peters) taken top-20.

Ted and the staff here are projecting Randall somewhat, but they have some data which suggests Randall was just as competent in coverage as other top CBs in this draft. Not sure that warrants a "reach at CB" comment.

Originally Posted by: all_about_da_packers 



I would consider the pick a reach, even if he had been playing that exact position. Even if Randall comes in and does what we hope he is capable of. I still think the pick is a reach because he will just be replacing one of two players the organization and fans have believed to be pretty good players in Hyde and Hayward.

It is not like this kid is head and shoulder better than any other player that was still available at the pick. And some of those other players that rank about the same, fit into positions and roles that have greater need.
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Barfarn
10 years ago
I believe we have no positions of need [some could use improvement] on this team unless a CB, especially an outside CB, gets hurt [a safety can fill in the slot in a pinch]. I only studied that draft position group, hoping 1 or 2 outside CBs would be BAP in earlier rounds. Ashamedly I uttered on the Randall Pick, “who’s that douchebag?” Good news is the last time I said that, we drafted Jordy.

I watched the Oregon State game and outside of a few splash plays, Randall was not very good, I got scared, thought Ted Thompson was getting ready to be named GM of Vikings LOL. DR was better in Stanford, ND and USC games. I read he played OCB, at Mesa CC and could only dig up a highlight video. He looked like a shut down CB both in zone, in man and press [looked really good in press] and was Deon Sanders on returns. He played some WR and high-pointed one ball beautifully. Of course, Elmer Fud can look good in a highlight film and obviously the competition is not D-1.

I decided to review those ASU games for skills an OCB would possess.

When a receiver approached, DR looked really natural in his back peddle and seamless in flipping hips to run w/ the receiver. When the receiver would stop/start or cut; DR routinely had great balance and position to stick w/ him. And remember on the outside the sideline limits a WR’s cutting options; in the slot no such luxury exists. What was exceptional is after flipping and running w/a receiver he is unbelievable at locating and tracking the ball. Also, his reaction to tipped passes and coming off his man to knock down the balls and/or help out tackling receivers he’s not covering is outstanding as well. And he looked good high pointing the ball on a few plays [once he misjudged the ball]. What this means is he possesses a hard to spot, impossible to teach, critical CB trait: a 6th sense, a feel of where the receiver is when he's looking in the QB's eyes.

Fair question: Who ever heard of converting a college S to an NFL CB? I am 100% certain this guy would have been an outstanding college CB, so the conversion though rare is very believable in this case.

I believe it when His coach said that DR only played safety because of need and his football acumen on being the “QB of the defense.” He took one for the team like CM3 did at ILB. At DR’s pro day w/ Packers there [pretending to be looking at Jalen Strong, LOL], he did mostly CB workouts. Obviously, Joe Whitt watched him live or on tape at that pro day; Senior Bowl practices doing CB and safety position drills; playing OCB in ASU’s spring game; at an ASU practice; etc. Ted Thompson likes secondary guys that are versatile and then Whitt can coach up the specific position techniques. And having experience at safety and being the QB of D, will help DR learn the CB position, and learn it fast, he'll instinctively know where his safeties are supposed to be for help. Obviously DR is very coachable. I assure all of you Joe Whitt believes he can coach this kid up into a 1st Rnd CB [or he wouldn’t have been picked as a safety].

Now, who thinks their smarter than Joe?
buckeyepackfan
10 years ago
Randall wasn't on my list of preferred 1st RND picks,
But since Ted made Uffda look the fool last year with his picks, Randall will probably be all pro by the end of his 2nd year.

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Porforis
10 years ago

meanwhile TE, ILB, and DL continue to be terrible.

Originally Posted by: Laser Gunns 



Unfortunately your first round pick allows you to pick only a single player.
gotarace
10 years ago

Here is a highlight reel of Damarious Randall

Smart As a Horse
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all_about_da_packers
10 years ago
A breakdown  about Randall from a scout for the NFL (league office) that does a lot of the scouting work and publications that the NFL itself distributes.

Interesting part of the story:

Randall can hold up in man coverage vs. most tight ends and definitely has the mirror skills and foot speed to match up vs. quicker slot receivers. He turns and locates the ball and can extend his arms and snatch the ball out of the air.



Also questions Randall's fluidity at CB, but it is clear that the author believes Randall has shown talent to excel in coverage.
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Mucky Tundra
10 years ago
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10 years ago
After watching the highlight videos:

1. The pick sixes looked good. But both times were horrible telegraphing by the QB.
2. He needs tackling work. He's not Deion Sanders bad, but he's about as good as most packer DBs have been in recent years. Which isn't very good.
3. He looks like a typical 2nd/3rd round DB. Which, of course, is what the Packers were choosing from if they were going DB at #30.

You're drafting #30 and you can't trade down (I'm assuming). It is what it is.

An "OK"pick.
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