Zero2Cool
9 years ago

The media has created the perception that the voters choose the nomination. That's the conflict here.

Read more 

Curly Haugland wrote:




If what Curly Haugland says is true, why do voters waste their time voting? I thought that was the hole point of voting? You vote for your party nominee then in the general election you vote for your President.

I was thinking the 1,237 magic number for Republic nominee was more of a "mercy rule" than anything. Meaning, once you've hit that, it's clear the debates and voting can stop because the year the clear nomination of the people. And if come June no one has hit 1,237 then whomever has the most would be the nominee. How is that not the scenario to be played?

I naively was under the belief that under a democracy the people chose the nominee's and the President.

If a nominee were to have a large delegate lead over someone and the party hands the nominee to someone else, how should the voting public respond? I think they'd be PISSED.
UserPostedImage
PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago
there are definitely some big flaws in the election process that need to be resolved. This is one example. Other things that should be changed is to have all the primaries on the same day. And get rid of Winner take all for electoral votes.

Not sure what I would do. I would have a hard time voting for a candidate who lost in the primary elections, but would also have a hard time helping the other party by not voting or voting 3rd party.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
DarkaneRules
9 years ago
It's pretty hard but I almost a total libertarian and I cannot really get behind any candidate. It's frustrating.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
all_about_da_packers
9 years ago

If a nominee were to have a large delegate lead over someone and the party hands the nominee to someone else, how should the voting public respond? I think they'd be PISSED.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Here's the interesting bit most people gloss over (don't blame them; reading laws and policies and then understanding all implications is not easy): the nominee chosen does not need to have been part of the primary process.

I'm not an expert on US electoral law, but unless I'm missing something big, the wording is broad enough to actually allow a totally new GOP representative to be elected on the convention floor even if he/she was not part of any primary.

The biggest advantage of that route may be the fact that GOP leaders can say with a straight face they are not choosing someone the primary voters rejected, rather they are choosing someone the primary voters would have chosen all along.

Watching this play out is going to be really interesting. But it only happens if the GOP officials and donors can finally get their act together and make a real push to keep Trump from getting the majority of the delegates.
The NFL: Where Greg Jennings Happens.
Porforis
9 years ago
Voting in the primaries is a clear indicator of who people are willing to vote for, what the demographics are, and even why people are voting for who they are in the exit polls. 99.9% of the time, the GOP will choose the candidate that more people are voting for because that translates to the best chance of winning the general election, which is the ONLY thing they are concerned with.

In the case of Trump, he has strong support within the party (which still baffles me) but he will get almost no moderates and in general matches up poorly with Hillary, and could very well permanently damage the GOP brand.
Fan Shout
dfosterf (22h) : I'm going to call that a good move.
Zero2Cool (4-Aug) : Packers sign CB Corey Ballentine
Zero2Cool (4-Aug) : I'm not sure how to kill the draft order just yet so it's not so confusing.
Mucky Tundra (4-Aug) : *to be able
Mucky Tundra (4-Aug) : and because it's not a dynasty league (which makes a lot more sense to be ability to trade picks)
Mucky Tundra (4-Aug) : Oh I know; I was just exploring and it blew my mind that you could trade picks because of the whole reordering thing
Mucky Tundra (4-Aug) : Zero, I think I preferred my offer: your 1st for my 15th rounder
Zero2Cool (4-Aug) : Keep in mind, we do a draft reorder once all members locked in
Zero2Cool (4-Aug) : You can have my 12th Rd for your 2nd round
Mucky Tundra (4-Aug) : Hey i didn't know we could trade picks in fantasy
Mucky Tundra (3-Aug) : Update: Rock has tried a cheese curd, promises it's not his last
Zero2Cool (3-Aug) : watch it!! lol
Mucky Tundra (3-Aug) : you're right, we never did leave, the site just went down :P
Mucky Tundra (3-Aug) : Rock claims to have never eaten a cheese curd
Zero2Cool (3-Aug) : We did not leave.
Mucky Tundra (3-Aug) : Family Night! WE ARE SO BACK!
Mucky Tundra (2-Aug) : To this day, I'm still miffed about his 4 TD game against Dallas on Thanksgiving going to waste
Martha Careful (2-Aug) : Congratulations Sterling Sharpe. He was terrific and I loved watching him play.
beast (2-Aug) : I believe it's technically against the CBA rules, but Jerry just calls it a simple unofficial chat... and somehow gets away with it.
beast (2-Aug) : Jerry Jones is infamous for ̶n̶e̶g̶o̶t̶i̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ chatting with players one on one... and going around the agent.
Mucky Tundra (1-Aug) : Oo just saw a blurb saying that Dallas negotiated directly with Parsons and not through his agent
Mucky Tundra (1-Aug) : I assumed that both guys will get paid, just a matter of when or how we get there
Zero2Cool (1-Aug) : McLaurin nor Micah going anywhere. They will get money
Mucky Tundra (1-Aug) : the Synder years or do they take care of one of their own?
Mucky Tundra (1-Aug) : Do the Commanders risk losing a top WR with an emerging QB just because he's turning 30 and potentially risk damaging the rebuild from
Mucky Tundra (1-Aug) : Turns 30 this September, plays at a high level and Washington has some cap space I believe
Mucky Tundra (1-Aug) : More interesting is Washington with Terry McLaurin
Mucky Tundra (1-Aug) : I would imagine Dallas will resolve this issue with a truckload of money
Zero2Cool (1-Aug) : Micah pulling a Myles with trade request
beast (1-Aug) : Packers should make some cheese forks
Mucky Tundra (31-Jul) : GRAB THE PITCHFORKS~
Zero2Cool (31-Jul) : CUT HIM
Mucky Tundra (31-Jul) : Socieltal collapse imminent
Mucky Tundra (31-Jul) : The West has fallen
Mucky Tundra (31-Jul) : After starting off camp with 25 straight made field goals, Brandon McManus has missed one
Zero2Cool (31-Jul) : But it should be stable
Zero2Cool (31-Jul) : It's probably gonna be slower.
Zero2Cool (31-Jul) : We're gonna just full go on to the new host.
Zero2Cool (31-Jul) : What crap. Site issues galore
Zero2Cool (30-Jul) : if PH dies, there is packerpeople com available
Zero2Cool (30-Jul) : database is on new host, eventually website will follow
Mucky Tundra (30-Jul) : Zero, regarding Ewers, you are correct.
Zero2Cool (30-Jul) : Sadly, this might be our life for awhile. I could put it on another host, but seems it was slower, although more stable
beast (30-Jul) : How long will it be down?
beast (30-Jul) : RIP site 😭
Zero2Cool (30-Jul) : Site will die, I have to restart it.
Zero2Cool (30-Jul) : Quinn stinks. Lot of underthrows. (my guess)
beast (30-Jul) : How did Quinn Ewers effect where Golden was drafted?
dfosterf (30-Jul) : All I've experienced was late at night or early morning. I just figured you were doing something in the background
Zero2Cool (30-Jul) : Site sure seems to be down more than up
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2025 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
COMMANDERS
Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
Browns
Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
Cardinals
Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
PANTHERS
Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
EAGLES
Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
Giants
Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
Bears
Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
RAVENS
Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
Vikings
Recent Topics
17h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

17h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

20h / Fantasy Sports Talk / packerfanoutwest

4-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

3-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

3-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

3-Aug / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Zero2Cool

2-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

2-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

28-Jul / Random Babble / Zero2Cool

28-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

28-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

27-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

27-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

25-Jul / Around The NFL / Mucky Tundra

Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.