PackFanWithTwins
8 years ago

I agree with your facts but not your conclusions. We don't have bottom-10 talent at WR but our pass offense has been complete garbage. Rodgers' happy feet and brainular issues, McCarthy seemingly being incapable of making adjustments, and WRs dropping shit on the rare occasion someone does get schemed/fluked open. More talent sure as hell won't hurt but this is the NFL. You've got to be able to move the ball more consistently than this even if you've got a bunch of #4s out there.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



The point was, if you compare when we had Jennings, Jones, Driver, Nelson we had what many believe to be the best top to bottom WR corp in the league. Today, Top to bottom I wouldn't put us in the upper 1/2. I think Rodgers got accustomed in the beginning of his career as a starter, to being able to pass up the planned routes if they are not wide open because he would scramble and somebody would come open. Now that the talent is not as great he cannot do that as much and it is something that he really hasn't had to deal with before the last couple years, especially last year.
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DoddPower
8 years ago

The point was, if you compare when we had Jennings, Jones, Driver, Nelson we had what many believe to be the best top to bottom WR corp in the league. Today, Top to bottom I wouldn't put us in the upper 1/2. I think Rodgers got accustomed in the beginning of his career as a starter, to being able to pass up the planned routes if they are not wide open because he would scramble and somebody would come open. Now that the talent is not as great he cannot do that as much and it is something that he really hasn't had to deal with before the last couple years, especially last year.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



I generally agree with you, but a good/great coach would be getting more out of this offense. There is plenty of talent to move the ball consistently, regardless of wins/losses. The bottom line is that McCarthy is doing anything but maximizing the offensive talent and that needs to change.
PackFanWithTwins
8 years ago

I generally agree with you, but a good/great coach would be getting more out of this offense. There is plenty of talent to move the ball consistently, regardless of wins/losses. The bottom line is that McCarthy is doing anything but maximizing the offensive talent and that needs to change.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



I definitely agree with that. Which is why I started the other thread. I think they both are victims of the early success they had with this type of play calling. Now that the talent level has dropped off some, neither of them seem to be adjusting. McCarthy needs to do better in play calling. Rodgers needs to throw to players who are not as wide open and let the receivers make plays.
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nerdmann
8 years ago

I definitely agree with that. Which is why I started the other thread. I think they both are victims of the early success they had with this type of play calling. Now that the talent level has dropped off some, neither of them seem to be adjusting. McCarthy needs to do better in play calling. Rodgers needs to throw to players who are not as wide open and let the receivers make plays.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



That talent around him is not what's different.

What's different is:

1: Aaron not adhering to fundamentals. I've been bitching about this forever, but last year when Clements was anointed as play caller it got way worse. The talent at WR isn't what make Aaron not adhere to footwork or proper mechanics. It also is not what makes him pass up open guys 5 yards away, in order to hold the ball 8 seconds trying to go deep, sandlot style.

2: They've been doing this "high tempo" bullshit where they don't make substitutions. I mean yeah, we get quite a few free plays by catching opposing D's before they're ready. But as a result, we leave the same guys in there and use the same formations for multiple consecutive drives. Defenses have that on film. They know what to expect.
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Cheesey
8 years ago
I've seen guys wide open. and Rodgers ignores them and goes to the guy that's covered down field.
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