uffda udfa
7 years ago


Is this a sign Jordy is still injured or nearing his end OR is it that Davante is ready to be a WR 1? I know what Z thinks.

Davante was unable to be a 1 when Nelson went down in 2015. While between good and very good, Adams will never be a great WR.

This is a reflection of Jordy's age and wear and tear.

The cupboard is pretty bare. 17 is not close to a 1, Jordy is diminishing, RC18 is not a viable outside WR and can't stay healthy. Davis and Janis don't play and Geronimo lacks speed even moreso than Adams.

The one deficiency Aaron Rodgers masked more than any other was our WR corps. Our group can't separate but 12 can fit it in to small windows. Not many other QBs could make this WR corps appear to be great outside of 12, and certainly not 7.

Sad to see Jordy fading. What chemistry he and 12 had. A sight to behold.

Org needs to find more speed and polish at WR. It's going to box itself in having to offer more to Adams than it should like it always seems to. The Hundley factor is our only hope on saving a few shekels.
UserPostedImage
Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


DarkaneRules
7 years ago
Good post. It's a mix of things and we've certainly seen for years that our WRs don't get separation consistently, although there are certainly times Adams is nasty off the line with a great slant. That being said, I want Cobb to take a game over. Of course a lot of that will depend on Hundley getting the ball out quickly, but they've got to get the ball into the hands of their playmakers, and if they aren't making plays, then put another guy in.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
Zero2Cool
7 years ago
What makes Davante Adams special is he always gets such good separation. He doesn't have great speed. I'm not sure if Adams will ever be a great WR because I'm not sure what a great WR is defined as. I say that because we had a massive debate over what a WR1 was defined as.

While I do believe Adams has progressed some, I also think Jordy has taken a step back too.
UserPostedImage
PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago
It is also quite possible that the put him on Adams because he is easier to shut down with single coverage than Jordy. What has made Jordy so dangerous over the years is not just the deep ball, it is the back shoulder throws and stop routes also which are extremely difficult single coverage. So by doing single coverage on Adams they can roll help over the top of Jordy protecting against the go routes and allowing the CB to play a little more Trail coverage watching for the back shoulder and stops.

Remember back a few years we would bracket cover Calvin and man their #2 WR.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Zero2Cool
7 years ago

It is also quite possible that the put him on Adams because he is easier to shut down with single coverage than Jordy. What has made Jordy so dangerous over the years is not just the deep ball, it is the back shoulder throws and stop routes also which are extremely difficult single coverage. So by doing single coverage on Adams they can roll help over the top of Jordy protecting against the go routes and allowing the CB to play a little more Trail coverage watching for the back shoulder and stops.

Remember back a few years we would bracket cover Calvin and man their #2 WR.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



I think you're talking about the coverage approach I suggested for Julio Jones. Put your CB1 on their WR2 to lock him down and then take your CB2 and S to bracket Jones. I haven't paid attention to the coverage that much to know if teams are doing that to Jordy. I don't think so though because I haven't noticed Jordy stretching the field too much.
UserPostedImage
DoddPower
7 years ago
Adams quickness and twitch off the line of scrimmage is amazing. He may never be a "great" WR. There aren't many "great" WRs in the league, period. But he is very good, and at best, the Packers only have one other "very good" WR on the team, and he may not be anything more than "good" next season. Hopefully he sticks around.
Dulak
7 years ago
IMO the reason the packers have done so well is because we have had a few very good WRs not just one great one. And ya think about it if the opposing defense is putting their #1 corner or DA ... thats probably because they think he is the best WR on our team.

We are lucky to have DA on our team IMO. Only thing we need is to get ty back to catching the ball instead of trying to be a running back (no idea why we made him one anyways).
Cheesey
7 years ago
Without a good QB to get them the ball, it doesn't matter how good your WRs are.
UserPostedImage
Cheesey
7 years ago
AR could tell where his WR's were going to be, and "throw" the guys open. Hundley, by the time he thinks they will be open, waits, and by the time he throws the ball, the guys are again covered.

Hundley is almost in a no win situation. He doesn't have the skills (yet) to lead an NFL team. And he doesn't have the quick release that AR does. I didn't realize just how fast AR gets rid of the ball when he makes a decision, until I saw how slow to react Hundley is.
UserPostedImage
nerdmann
7 years ago

AR could tell where his WR's were going to be, and "throw" the guys open. Hundley, by the time he thinks they will be open, waits, and by the time he throws the ball, the guys are again covered.

Hundley is almost in a no win situation. He doesn't have the skills (yet) to lead an NFL team. And he doesn't have the quick release that Aaron Rodgers does. I didn't realize just how fast Aaron Rodgers gets rid of the ball when he makes a decision, until I saw how slow to react Hundley is.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



He has to get up to game speed. He's gotta throw some dangerous balls. He's gotta take his shots. Handing the ball off for 10 weeks, like he did all preseason isn't gonna male any progress at all.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (36m) : found bad sql in database, maybe site faster now?
dfosterf (5-Aug) : I'm going to call that a good move.
Zero2Cool (4-Aug) : Packers sign CB Corey Ballentine
Zero2Cool (4-Aug) : I'm not sure how to kill the draft order just yet so it's not so confusing.
Mucky Tundra (4-Aug) : *to be able
Mucky Tundra (4-Aug) : and because it's not a dynasty league (which makes a lot more sense to be ability to trade picks)
Mucky Tundra (4-Aug) : Oh I know; I was just exploring and it blew my mind that you could trade picks because of the whole reordering thing
Mucky Tundra (4-Aug) : Zero, I think I preferred my offer: your 1st for my 15th rounder
Zero2Cool (4-Aug) : Keep in mind, we do a draft reorder once all members locked in
Zero2Cool (4-Aug) : You can have my 12th Rd for your 2nd round
Mucky Tundra (4-Aug) : Hey i didn't know we could trade picks in fantasy
Mucky Tundra (3-Aug) : Update: Rock has tried a cheese curd, promises it's not his last
Zero2Cool (3-Aug) : watch it!! lol
Mucky Tundra (3-Aug) : you're right, we never did leave, the site just went down :P
Mucky Tundra (3-Aug) : Rock claims to have never eaten a cheese curd
Zero2Cool (3-Aug) : We did not leave.
Mucky Tundra (3-Aug) : Family Night! WE ARE SO BACK!
Mucky Tundra (2-Aug) : To this day, I'm still miffed about his 4 TD game against Dallas on Thanksgiving going to waste
Martha Careful (2-Aug) : Congratulations Sterling Sharpe. He was terrific and I loved watching him play.
beast (2-Aug) : I believe it's technically against the CBA rules, but Jerry just calls it a simple unofficial chat... and somehow gets away with it.
beast (2-Aug) : Jerry Jones is infamous for ̶n̶e̶g̶o̶t̶i̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ chatting with players one on one... and going around the agent.
Mucky Tundra (1-Aug) : Oo just saw a blurb saying that Dallas negotiated directly with Parsons and not through his agent
Mucky Tundra (1-Aug) : I assumed that both guys will get paid, just a matter of when or how we get there
Zero2Cool (1-Aug) : McLaurin nor Micah going anywhere. They will get money
Mucky Tundra (1-Aug) : the Synder years or do they take care of one of their own?
Mucky Tundra (1-Aug) : Do the Commanders risk losing a top WR with an emerging QB just because he's turning 30 and potentially risk damaging the rebuild from
Mucky Tundra (1-Aug) : Turns 30 this September, plays at a high level and Washington has some cap space I believe
Mucky Tundra (1-Aug) : More interesting is Washington with Terry McLaurin
Mucky Tundra (1-Aug) : I would imagine Dallas will resolve this issue with a truckload of money
Zero2Cool (1-Aug) : Micah pulling a Myles with trade request
beast (1-Aug) : Packers should make some cheese forks
Mucky Tundra (31-Jul) : GRAB THE PITCHFORKS~
Zero2Cool (31-Jul) : CUT HIM
Mucky Tundra (31-Jul) : Socieltal collapse imminent
Mucky Tundra (31-Jul) : The West has fallen
Mucky Tundra (31-Jul) : After starting off camp with 25 straight made field goals, Brandon McManus has missed one
Zero2Cool (31-Jul) : But it should be stable
Zero2Cool (31-Jul) : It's probably gonna be slower.
Zero2Cool (31-Jul) : We're gonna just full go on to the new host.
Zero2Cool (31-Jul) : What crap. Site issues galore
Zero2Cool (30-Jul) : if PH dies, there is packerpeople com available
Zero2Cool (30-Jul) : database is on new host, eventually website will follow
Mucky Tundra (30-Jul) : Zero, regarding Ewers, you are correct.
Zero2Cool (30-Jul) : Sadly, this might be our life for awhile. I could put it on another host, but seems it was slower, although more stable
beast (30-Jul) : How long will it be down?
beast (30-Jul) : RIP site 😭
Zero2Cool (30-Jul) : Site will die, I have to restart it.
Zero2Cool (30-Jul) : Quinn stinks. Lot of underthrows. (my guess)
beast (30-Jul) : How did Quinn Ewers effect where Golden was drafted?
dfosterf (30-Jul) : All I've experienced was late at night or early morning. I just figured you were doing something in the background
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2025 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
COMMANDERS
Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
Browns
Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
Cardinals
Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
PANTHERS
Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
EAGLES
Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
Giants
Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
Bears
Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
RAVENS
Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
Vikings
Recent Topics
1h / Fantasy Sports Talk / macbob

3h / Around The NFL / wpr

5-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

5-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

4-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

3-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

3-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

3-Aug / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Zero2Cool

2-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

2-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

28-Jul / Random Babble / Zero2Cool

28-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

28-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

27-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

27-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.