Zero2Cool
16 years ago

Holy shit isn't the 4 minutes up yet damn. I am seeing alot of replays going on and i still don't know who won 😛 Hopefully we don't goto overtime on this thread :p

"dhazer" wrote:



Wow, pay attention. We went 0 for 8. Duh. Obviously, the other team won!
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earthquake
16 years ago
Great post warhawk.
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dd80forever
16 years ago

No matter what you say warhawk, he'll just disagree because Favre doesn't play here anymore. He's a one trick pony and you'll never change his mind.

"dingus" wrote:



And it's garbage like this, when 2 people are having a healthy debate, that pollutes this site.

If you have something to add, do it, or move on with your worn-out drivel
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dd80forever
16 years ago

There were 2 games where missed field goals were the culprit. What about the 6 others?

I want to know that if there is 3:00 or so left in the game and we have the ball, no matter whats happened prior in the game, that my QB has a fighting chance to lead us to victory. It's the same thing as a Basketball player hitting a shot at the buzzer. Some people rise up and some people fold.

"warhawk" wrote:



That's fine but that's not what your gigging him on so it's not really what you want.

In the Carolina game the guy leads them to 24 second half points on four drives 32, 95, 79, and, 76 yards. Only to see our lousy ST's give up two consecutive 50 yard returns. We end up with the ball on our SEVENTEEN and 1:30 left needing a TD to win. That's a far cry from what you WANT. That's no "buzzer beater." That's asking a guy thats already scored 40 to make a three quarters court shot too.

That's not 3:00. Jacksonville was not three minutes.

With 4:37 left against Houston he throws a bomb to Driver for 59 yards and then we get the phantom hold on Grants run to the 13. Now, did our QB give us a "fighting chance" to win? Did he fold here?

Look. Arod played poorly at the end of the Atlanta game and the end of the Tampa game. AFTER THAT, and I think this is what is important, he played better and did his part at the end of games. No, he didn't pull out 87 yard miracles.

I would put it like this. In a lot of games he didn't make a buzzer beater to win...but made some mighty nice bounce passes to guys wide open that blew it.

"dd80forever" wrote:




The problem with that analogy is in the clutch you don't make a "bounce-pass" to someone else, you put the game on your shoulders and deliver.

1:30 is enough time to move the team or at least get a shot at the endzone.

I don't deal in excuses. You want to be clutch you take the credit when you suuceed and the blame when you fail.
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warhawk
16 years ago

There were 2 games where missed field goals were the culprit. What about the 6 others?

I want to know that if there is 3:00 or so left in the game and we have the ball, no matter whats happened prior in the game, that my QB has a fighting chance to lead us to victory. It's the same thing as a Basketball player hitting a shot at the buzzer. Some people rise up and some people fold.

"dd80forever" wrote:



That's fine but that's not what your gigging him on so it's not really what you want.

In the Carolina game the guy leads them to 24 second half points on four drives 32, 95, 79, and, 76 yards. Only to see our lousy ST's give up two consecutive 50 yard returns. We end up with the ball on our SEVENTEEN and 1:30 left needing a TD to win. That's a far cry from what you WANT. That's no "buzzer beater." That's asking a guy thats already scored 40 to make a three quarters court shot too.

That's not 3:00. Jacksonville was not three minutes.

With 4:37 left against Houston he throws a bomb to Driver for 59 yards and then we get the phantom hold on Grants run to the 13. Now, did our QB give us a "fighting chance" to win? Did he fold here?

Look. Arod played poorly at the end of the Atlanta game and the end of the Tampa game. AFTER THAT, and I think this is what is important, he played better and did his part at the end of games. No, he didn't pull out 87 yard miracles.

I would put it like this. In a lot of games he didn't make a buzzer beater to win...but made some mighty nice bounce passes to guys wide open that blew it.

"warhawk" wrote:




The problem with that analogy is in the clutch you don't make a "bounce-pass" to someone else, you put the game on your shoulders and deliver.

1:30 is enough time to move the team or at least get a shot at the endzone.

I don't deal in excuses. You want to be clutch you take the credit when you suuceed and the blame when you fail.

"dd80forever" wrote:



That's a real convenient position there Mr. Cliche.

No facts, no stats, to back up how often it ever happens but hey, "just put it on your shoulders and bring 'er home there buddy" sounds great.
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mi_keys
16 years ago

There were 2 games where missed field goals were the culprit. What about the 6 others?

I want to know that if there is 3:00 or so left in the game and we have the ball, no matter whats happened prior in the game, that my QB has a fighting chance to lead us to victory. It's the same thing as a Basketball player hitting a shot at the buzzer. Some people rise up and some people fold.

"dd80forever" wrote:



That's fine but that's not what your gigging him on so it's not really what you want.

In the Carolina game the guy leads them to 24 second half points on four drives 32, 95, 79, and, 76 yards. Only to see our lousy ST's give up two consecutive 50 yard returns. We end up with the ball on our SEVENTEEN and 1:30 left needing a TD to win. That's a far cry from what you WANT. That's no "buzzer beater." That's asking a guy thats already scored 40 to make a three quarters court shot too.

That's not 3:00. Jacksonville was not three minutes.

With 4:37 left against Houston he throws a bomb to Driver for 59 yards and then we get the phantom hold on Grants run to the 13. Now, did our QB give us a "fighting chance" to win? Did he fold here?

Look. Arod played poorly at the end of the Atlanta game and the end of the Tampa game. AFTER THAT, and I think this is what is important, he played better and did his part at the end of games. No, he didn't pull out 87 yard miracles.

I would put it like this. In a lot of games he didn't make a buzzer beater to win...but made some mighty nice bounce passes to guys wide open that blew it.

"warhawk" wrote:




The problem with that analogy is in the clutch you don't make a "bounce-pass" to someone else, you put the game on your shoulders and deliver.

1:30 is enough time to move the team or at least get a shot at the endzone.

I don't deal in excuses. You want to be clutch you take the credit when you suuceed and the blame when you fail.

"dd80forever" wrote:



If you bounce pass it to them so that they're wide open and they miss a dunk you delivered and they didn't. One person doesn't and can't do everything, even more so in football than in basketball.
Born and bred a cheesehead
16 years ago

There were 2 games where missed field goals were the culprit. What about the 6 others?

I want to know that if there is 3:00 or so left in the game and we have the ball, no matter whats happened prior in the game, that my QB has a fighting chance to lead us to victory. It's the same thing as a Basketball player hitting a shot at the buzzer. Some people rise up and some people fold.

"dd80forever" wrote:



That's fine but that's not what your gigging him on so it's not really what you want.

In the Carolina game the guy leads them to 24 second half points on four drives 32, 95, 79, and, 76 yards. Only to see our lousy ST's give up two consecutive 50 yard returns. We end up with the ball on our SEVENTEEN and 1:30 left needing a TD to win. That's a far cry from what you WANT. That's no "buzzer beater." That's asking a guy thats already scored 40 to make a three quarters court shot too.

That's not 3:00. Jacksonville was not three minutes.

With 4:37 left against Houston he throws a bomb to Driver for 59 yards and then we get the phantom hold on Grants run to the 13. Now, did our QB give us a "fighting chance" to win? Did he fold here?

Look. Arod played poorly at the end of the Atlanta game and the end of the Tampa game. AFTER THAT, and I think this is what is important, he played better and did his part at the end of games. No, he didn't pull out 87 yard miracles.

I would put it like this. In a lot of games he didn't make a buzzer beater to win...but made some mighty nice bounce passes to guys wide open that blew it.

"warhawk" wrote:




The problem with that analogy is in the clutch you don't make a "bounce-pass" to someone else, you put the game on your shoulders and deliver.

1:30 is enough time to move the team or at least get a shot at the endzone.

I don't deal in excuses. You want to be clutch you take the credit when you suuceed and the blame when you fail.

"dd80forever" wrote:

The problem with your analogy is you are forgetting football is a team sport. Sure you can put the game on your shoulders and deliver, but what happens when your TEAM lets you down. There is only so much a quaterback can do. Its not his fault someone dropped a pass, blown coverage, or missed a field goal. Last time i checked football was a team sport. You act like the quarter back has control of everything. When your coach decides to run the ball 3 straight downs you really dont have that much control in the clutch. My point is you can only carry a football team so far. You're teammates have to step up in the clutch also. Unlike basketball where you can have the ball in your hands every trip down the floor and not have to rely on your team making a basket. Only yourself.

EDIT: After reading it over it looks like im saying basketball isn't a team sport. No no I didn't actually mean it that way. Basketball is a team sport which i love. I just meant football has more to do with team. Sorry just didn't want any basketball fans hating on me 🙂
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Gravedigga
16 years ago
Really, this argument is amazing. 8 freaking pages of nonsense.

The craziness has moved from the Favre section to over here.

Can't we all just get long.......
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IronMan
16 years ago



Can't we all just get long.......

"Gravedigga" wrote:


No. Favre is the Anti Christ, Aaron Rodgers is a choker, and there is NO middle ground. Get with the program!
dhazer
16 years ago
Since when is Basketball a team game? Have you watched the Lakers or Cavs play it's pretty much give Kobe or King James the ball and get out of the way and if they don't make a shot they will get a foul called :P

Yes i'm bored with the same nonsense , this 4 minutes is lasting forever.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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