zombieslayer
13 years ago
I'm more under the impression that they're vampires. Lifeless, soulless creatures only interested in preying our blood (or hard-earned tax money).
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
Think McShay will take him up on the offer? I would if I was him. How can you pass up a chance like that? Watch film with a professional athlete, a Green Bay Packer to boot?
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Pack93z
13 years ago

Think McShay will take him up on the offer? I would if I was him. How can you pass up a chance like that? Watch film with a professional athlete, a Green Bay Packer to boot?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Why would he.. what possibly could one gain from it other than knowledge itself.

And if McShay acknowledges he learned a great deal.. it will only discount his credibility on past statements and tarnish his work to that date.

You know Aaron would expose anything he didn't know.. or why else the challenge?
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Think McShay will take him up on the offer? I would if I was him. How can you pass up a chance like that? Watch film with a professional athlete, a Green Bay Packer to boot?

"pack93z" wrote:



Why would he.. what possibly could one gain from it other than knowledge itself.

And if McShay acknowledges he learned a great deal.. it will only discount his credibility on past statements and tarnish his work to that date.

You know Aaron would expose anything he didn't know.. or why else the challenge?

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Why wouldn't he? It's a helluva a opportunity. He can learn something that would make him a BETTER analyst. Why would you freaking pass up on getting BETTER at your job?!?!
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Pack93z
13 years ago

Think McShay will take him up on the offer? I would if I was him. How can you pass up a chance like that? Watch film with a professional athlete, a Green Bay Packer to boot?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Why would he.. what possibly could one gain from it other than knowledge itself.

And if McShay acknowledges he learned a great deal.. it will only discount his credibility on past statements and tarnish his work to that date.

You know Aaron would expose anything he didn't know.. or why else the challenge?

"pack93z" wrote:



Why wouldn't he? It's a helluva a opportunity. He can learn something that would make him a BETTER analyst. Why would you freaking pass up on getting BETTER at your job?!?!

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Because he a puppet head that would have to admit that he didn't know the principles and that he may have incorrectly rated a player in the past.

Would I do it.. hell yes.. in a freaking heartbeat.. but I would jump at the opportunity from even someone as an assistant coach...

I think, for someone like McShay, that has little to no credentials to effectively hold the job he currently does.. it would be a career risk to walk into a session like that and be exposed for what he doesn't know but should when projecting talent from college to the pros.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
13 years ago
If he's exposed for what he doesn't know, that means he's just learned something and would have the benefit of learning how to watch film ... like a professional athlete.

I just don't see how this is negative. This is a great opportunity, not negative. Aaron is not the type who's going to say 'haha i had dude in the film room and ... bro guess what ... he knows SQUAT!!' ... Aaron just isn't that kind of guy. At worst I bet he'd say "it was a great experience and they both learned a little from one another," then he'd smile an say "of course he learned a lot more from me. ;)"
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Pack93z
13 years ago

If he's exposed for what he doesn't know, that means he's just learned something and would have the benefit of learning how to watch film ... like a professional athlete.

I just don't see how this is negative. This is a great opportunity, not negative. Aaron is not the type who's going to say 'haha i had dude in the film room and ... bro guess what ... he knows SQUAT!!' ... Aaron just isn't that kind of guy. At worst I bet he'd say "it was a great experience and they both learned a little from one another," then he'd smile an say "of course he learned a lot more from me. ;)"

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Do you really believe Aaron would be the only one present?

Second.. why offer the challenge if it is not to make a point?

I don't think it is a negative overall.. I think it would benefit McShay personally.. but it is also a risk to his current gig if he flops like a 3 day old tuna out of water...

McShay, Kiper.. men of their ilk have it made.. why would they step into a room that has any risk of them being exposed for lacking knowledge?

They are like teflon right now.. nothing sticks to them.. no matter how far off their analysis is.. they get in front of the viewing public.. give an opinion and throw some of the hot terms around.. and repeat it year after year.. some gig.

Just my opinion.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
IronMan
13 years ago
Do you guys really expect guys like Todd/Mel to correctly predict how every single NFL draftee is going to pan out?
Pack93z
13 years ago

Do you guys really expect someone like Todd/Mel to correctly predict how every single NFL draftee is going to pan out?

"IronMan" wrote:



Nope.. Actually I expect very little out of them.. they are a glorified fan whom has been elevated to sell a product.. coverage of the NFL draft.

I don't expect my GM and scouts to hit every time either.. but I have more confidence in their evaluation matching up with my teams scheme and needs than some window dressing that never has been a pro scout or established some credibility in there work.

McShay to me... comes off as very phony and lacking.. looking at his background that is amplified.

But he comes off like his word is the gospel.

Can you tell I don't care for him or Kiper.. lol.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
IronMan
13 years ago

Do you guys really expect someone like Todd/Mel to correctly predict how every single NFL draftee is going to pan out?

"pack93z" wrote:



Nope..

"IronMan" wrote:

Then I don't see what the issue is. He didn't think Rodgers would be a good qb. He was wrong. Big deal. Lets move on.
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