Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
Orientated is one of the most commonly misused words in the English language.

Oriented means directed or turned in some direction.

Orientated means oriented specifically toward the east. It is not a synonym for oriented, except when oriented is itself being used in the sense of "turned toward the east," which is a legitimate use of the word.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Holmes and Jackson don't belong on the list.

"dhazer" wrote:

Yeah right, Holmes isn't system oriented but Jennings is?


I'd throw Jennings in there over either of them, although I do like Jackson.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



People seem to forget both Holmes and Jackson also return kicks and run reverses. To be honest I didn't feel like Jennings stood out above many last year. Seemed like Driver was getting the ball when we needed the big play.

"porky88" wrote:



People seem to forget because Holmes had 3 rushing attempts and 2 punt returns last season.

Jackson had 11 rushing attempts, 29 punt returns and 1 kick return last season.

Jennings did not have a stand out year last year. It was, in my view, above average, but not good. He didn't top 70 catches and only had 4 td's.


I'd take Jennings over Holmes. It'd be close with Jennings and Jackson. I fear Jackson is more flash in the pan and will fizzle out. I'm hoping I'm wrong because he's fun to watch, like when he dropped the ball on the goal line that helped me win my fantasy game his rookie year. Heads up guy!
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porky88
14 years ago
Jackson is on there because he's a deep threat, but Randy Moss is off the list because he's a deep threat. Jackson is not a route runner. The argument he makes for leaving Moss off the list, can be said for Jackson.

The Greg Jennings argument can be applied to Reggie Wayne. Peyton Manning is so great because he's made Marvin Harrison and Edgerrin James into potential Hall of Famers. No doubt about Harrison. I think he's done the same with Wayne. Don't get me wrong though, Wayne is a great receiver, but he has no business being ahead of Fitzgerald or Calvin Johnson for that matter. Johnson is the most talented wide out in the league.

I'm not sure I'd put Jennings in the top ten. I say this because I think he hasn't proven he can beat double teams, but Jennings is certainly ahead of Jackson and Holmes. I think Jennings falls into a Roddy White like category.
Formo
14 years ago

Jackson is on there because he's a deep threat, but Randy Moss is off the list because he's a deep threat. Jackson is not a route runner. The argument he makes for leaving Moss off the list, can be said for Jackson.

The Greg Jennings argument can be applied to Reggie Wayne. Peyton Manning is so great because he's made Marvin Harrison and Edgerrin James into potential Hall of Famers. No doubt about Harrison. I think he's done the same with Wayne. Don't get me wrong though, Wayne is a great receiver, but he has no business being ahead of Fitzgerald or Calvin Johnson for that matter. Johnson is the most talented wide out in the league.

I'm not sure I'd put Jennings in the top ten. I say this because I think he hasn't proven he can beat double teams, but Jennings is certainly ahead of Jackson and Holmes. I think Jennings falls into a Roddy White like category.

"porky88" wrote:



I would have to agree with you. Only that I'd swap Fitz with Johnson.
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dhazer
14 years ago
To be honest I think both Jackson and Holmes will be off the list after this year seeing Holmes is gone to a team that don't pass much and Jackson will have Kolb at qb.

I say watch this year for guys like Crabtree and Bryant (Dez) to have very very good years. Fitzgeralds numbers will also drop with Matty at the helm. Calvin I believe will finally start putting up big numbers in Detroit
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porky88
14 years ago
I agree with you on Michael Crabtree. I think he'll have a big season this year.
zombieslayer
14 years ago
Randy Moss is "just" a deep threat? And for the record, James Lofton was a better deep threat.

Moss is a lot more of a complete receiver than people give him credit for. The year where Moss got 23 TD receptions and broke Jerry Rice's single season record, let's not forget that Favre completed more deep balls than Brady did. Moss in the open field is dangerous and gets a lot of YAC.

I know people love to hate the guy, but let's put personality aside and just put performance up there. He's hands down the best WR of the 00s and will be a first ballot HOF'er in a time where there are a lot of worthy WRs who don't make it to the Hall.

I do agree with Calvin Johnson. Had he been drafted by the Packers or another elite passing team, he may just well be the best WR in the game.
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mi_keys
14 years ago

Holmes and Jackson don't belong on the list.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

Yeah right, Holmes isn't system oriented but Jennings is?


I'd throw Jennings in there over either of them, although I do like Jackson.

"dhazer" wrote:



People seem to forget both Holmes and Jackson also return kicks and run reverses. To be honest I didn't feel like Jennings stood out above many last year. Seemed like Driver was getting the ball when we needed the big play.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



People seem to forget because Holmes had 3 rushing attempts and 2 punt returns last season.

Jackson had 11 rushing attempts, 29 punt returns and 1 kick return last season.

Jennings did not have a stand out year last year. It was, in my view, above average, but not good. He didn't top 70 catches and only had 4 td's.


I'd take Jennings over Holmes. It'd be close with Jennings and Jackson. I fear Jackson is more flash in the pan and will fizzle out. I'm hoping I'm wrong because he's fun to watch, like when he dropped the ball on the goal line that helped me win my fantasy game his rookie year. Heads up guy!

"porky88" wrote:



For the record, Calvin Johnson who was ranked fourth on that list had similar numbers to Jennings with 67 catches, 984 yards, and 5 tds (Jennings was at 68, 1,113, and 4 respectively). I know he's on one of the worst teams but he is the only person they throw the ball to.

I think Driver and Jennings are both top 15, arguably top 10 but I would put them both just outside. I think Welker deserves a spot in the top 10 and Boldin deserves a shout.
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porky88
14 years ago
I would put Calvin Johnson No. 3 behind Fitzgerald and Andre Johnson. I think he's that good. In time, he should become No. 1. The talent is undeniable.
zombieslayer
13 years ago
Well, I'm going to put Randy Moss in the top 3. Why? Let's see.

Broke Jerry Rice's record for most TDs in a season only 3 years ago. The year after that, was #3 in the NFL in TDs. Last year, once again he's #1.

I know the guy's a schmuck. Everyone hates him. Regardless, he produces. Nobody since Jerry Rice has come even close to his production. He made Culpepper look good. He helped Brady have the best year ever for a QB. Why can't this guy get any respect?

The stats speak for themselves. Not just TDs but yards as well. People conveniently forget he was #3 in yards last year as well.

How is this guy not in the top 5? I honestly believe that people can't see things objectively.
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