Rockmolder
12 years ago
One of the few free agents I would've liked to have signed was Robert Gallery. The talent is there. He could easily be one of the best guards in the league. Cable got a lot out of him and I reckon he'll do that again in Seattle.

As for our O-line now... I reckon it'll look like Clifton - Lang/McDonald - Wells - Sitton - Bulaga. The only real question is that LG spot... But I don't see Sherrod making it. He just doesn't look like a guard to me. Especially if we want to be able to run the ball up the middle.

Clifton will go down for stretches in some games... Those are the times that Sherrod should come in, gain some experience and when we can see whether he'll step up in his rookie year or not.
nerdmann
12 years ago
Can McDonald also play C?
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12 years ago

Can McDonald also play C?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I think he could be gameday backup center. McDonald has a little more size than Wells or Dietrich-Smith. So don't know how good of a center he would be as a starter.
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beast
12 years ago

Can McDonald also play C?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



He's been listed as a C since day one and playing as the #3 C in practice last year and playing as the #2 Center in the first camp day this year so I assume so...

I think he could be gameday backup center. McDonald has a little more size than Wells or Dietrich-Smith. So don't know how good of a center he would be as a starter.

Originally Posted by: Tezzy 



Honestly I don't understand that logic at all... more size = not as good at Center? Doesn't make sense to me... if you can snap it well, make the calls well and play well you should be able to play center well...

being bigger has nothing to do with making the calls, being bigger can help at playing well so it can be a plus there... so as long as it doesn't effect the snaps I don't understand how bigger = worse center...

I'd argue the other way and say Mike McCarthy and the OL coaches have been trying to get a bigger Center for a while... but they keep getting hurt... Packers have been getting bigger C or taking OG and trying to make them C for a while now... Palmer, Coston, Spitz and I think there is one or two more...
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nerdmann
12 years ago
Wells is actually undersized. That's why they tried to replace him with Spitz a couple years ago. Mike McCarthy finally decided to get off his "smaller, quicker" fetish.
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beast
12 years ago

Wells is actually undersized. That's why they tried to replace him with Spitz a couple years ago. Mike McCarthy finally decided to get off his "smaller, quicker" fetish.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I disagree... Wells is undersized but the Packers have been trying to replace Wells (with a couple of big centers) to improve the run blocking, and so that all 3 inside guys can have power. Problem is none of them could beat out Wells until Spitz (Wells was pissed he lost the starting role)... when Spitz got hurt, Wells showed much more effort and improvement in the run game... still not the best at it but he's stepped it up.

Also I'm not sold on the Packers OL were smaller... they were all over 300 pounds... no they weren't the 320 pounds but most of the teams with those are run first teams, not pass first teams. Of the pass first teams I think the Packers OL were about average size. Sitton, Breno, Barbre weren't the lightest guys and nether was Spitz for a C (the position he played in college SR year, I think).

I think the smaller bit might be made up for those that didn't like zone blocking... and the Packers still look for quick...
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Dexter_Sinister
12 years ago

I disagree... Wells is undersized but the Packers have been trying to replace Wells (with a couple of big centers) to improve the run blocking, and so that all 3 inside guys can have power. Problem is none of them could beat out Wells until Spitz (Wells was pissed he lost the starting role)... when Spitz got hurt, Wells showed much more effort and improvement in the run game... still not the best at it but he's stepped it up.

Also I'm not sold on the Packers OL were smaller... they were all over 300 pounds... no they weren't the 320 pounds but most of the teams with those are run first teams, not pass first teams. Of the pass first teams I think the Packers OL were about average size. Sitton, Breno, Barbre weren't the lightest guys and nether was Spitz for a C (the position he played in college SR year, I think).

I think the smaller bit might be made up for those that didn't like zone blocking... and the Packers still look for quick...

Originally Posted by: beast 



In '08 and '09, I am pretty sure that the line was within a couple pounds of the line Sherman had in '04.
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Greg C.
12 years ago
So maybe there wasn't a big size difference, but the coaches were looking for agility rather than power. I'm glad that they seem to have abandoned that approach.
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Dexter_Sinister
12 years ago

So maybe there wasn't a big size difference, but the coaches were looking for agility rather than power. I'm glad that they seem to have abandoned that approach.

Originally Posted by: Greg C. 



They have not abandoned ZBS. They have incorporated ZBS elements into a greater scheme that uses the elements of many different schemes. Like the I and Inverted Bone power schemes and the Spread 5 and 4 wideout schemes.

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12 years ago

They have not abandoned ZBS. They have incorporated ZBS elements into a greater scheme that uses the elements of many different schemes. Like the I and Inverted Bone power schemes and the Spread 5 and 4 wideout schemes.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 



I didn't mean to imply that they had abandoned the zone blocking scheme. I was just referring to the physical qualities that they are looking for in O-linemen.
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