nerdmann
12 years ago
Well THIS  doesn't sound good.

Sounds like the Wells situation is brewing.
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12 years ago
Hopefully this is just PFT doing its "stirring the pot" thing.
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DoddPower
12 years ago
Wade, for one, it's not PFT stirring the pot. If anything, it's Bob McGinn. Most of what PFT does is provide a summary of others articles.

Either way, if Wells truly is being so bitter with his "long memory" than I'm annoyed at him. He got beat out a few years ago. This if the NFL. No one is entitled to a starting job. It has to be earned and with time Wells has done just that. I'm not sure why he feels it's personal. As a 7th round undersized center, one is going to have to continually prove himself. If he is truly taking anything that has happened throughout his career personal, perhaps it's best he moves on. There will be plenty of other free agent centers, several as good or better than Wells anyway, if need be.

An interesting quote from an AFC scout from the article:

"You can win with Scott Wells," the scout said. "I just don't think you can with five Scott Wells."



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nerdmann
12 years ago

Wade, for one, it's not PFT stirring the pot. If anything, it's Bob McGinn. Most of what PFT does is provide a summary of others articles.

Either way, if Wells truly is being so bitter with his "long memory" than I'm annoyed at him. He got beat out a few years ago. This if the NFL. No one is entitled to a starting job. It has to be earned and with time Wells has done just that. I'm not sure why he feels it's personal. As a 7th round undersized center, one is going to have to continually prove himself. If he is truly taking anything that has happened throughout his career personal, perhaps it's best he moves on. There will be plenty of other free agent centers, several as good or better than Wells anyway, if need be.

An interesting quote from an AFC scout from the article:



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Originally Posted by: doddpower 



That's one thing that concerns me about Arodge too. Not that he takes it personal as a grudge against the team, but he uses all that crap as "motivation."

As for Wells, they talk about how great he is with the line calls and picking up blitzes and stuff. That's great, but I don't think he's irreplaceable. Although I'm not convinced we've got another starter on the roster right now.
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12 years ago
GB could certainly use Wells. Wells would benefit from playing with Rodgers. They can still get the deal done. Uncle Teddy will not overpay for him. If it hurts his feelings, Oh Wells.
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Nonstopdrivel
12 years ago

After all Wells has gone through in Green Bay

Bob McGinn wrote:


WTF? How do men making multiple millions of dollars per year hold on to their victimization mentalities with such tenacity? So people aren't throwing themselves at your feet to worship you and give you gratuitous fellatio. Does that really mean you have been slighted?

Packers players must spend too much time on Packers' fan sites. They all seem to think they are elite talents. Well, if that were the case, they should have steamrolled through the playoffs this year.

If some other team wants to overpay a former Packers' offensive lineman, let them. We can all see how far that got the Arizona Cardinals this year.
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12 years ago
Ah, but what is the likelihood that the Packers will pursue a free agent center? If the Packers aren't willing to "overpay" for Wells, who has been a critical part of *their* roster, what is the likelihood they will overpay for an even better center? IMO, slim and none.

Wells right now is arguably the Packers' second best OL, at arguably the second most important OL position.

If he goes,then the Packers have another hole to fill. A hole that I for one would not want to have to rely on a rookie -- any rookie -- to fill.

The more holes the Packers have, the greater the likelihood that one or more of them is dependent on hitting a home-run on a late-run draft pick. Right now I count three serious holes on defense (DE, LB, S) for sure, and (though I know people disagree on this last) a need for another starter-quality OL even if Wells stays. Add in the need to improve OL and DL backups, to pick up a backup quarterback, and you're asking a damn lot out of the draft.

I guess I don't care that much whether Wells is holding a grudge for being dissed X years ago or not. What I care about is whether they lose a key free agent or not in a year when they've got some serious holes to fill already.

Because I have very little confidence that Ted Thompson will make a first tier FA signing. It's simply not his MO. He doesn't overpay -- he looks for bargains and "value-for-money". How many free agent OL during his tenure have signed anywhere in the league as a "bargain"? How many free agent OL during his tenure have not been "overpaid" by his criteria?

Wade, for one, it's not PFT stirring the pot. If anything, it's Bob McGinn. Most of what PFT does is provide a summary of others articles.

Either way, if Wells truly is being so bitter with his "long memory" than I'm annoyed at him. He got beat out a few years ago. This if the NFL. No one is entitled to a starting job. It has to be earned and with time Wells has done just that. I'm not sure why he feels it's personal. As a 7th round undersized center, one is going to have to continually prove himself. If he is truly taking anything that has happened throughout his career personal, perhaps it's best he moves on. There will be plenty of other free agent centers, several as good or better than Wells anyway, if need be.

An interesting quote from an AFC scout from the article:



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DakotaT
12 years ago
I disagree that Uncle Ted doesn't overpay, because he did with AJ Hawk, Brandon Chiller, and at the time Brady Poppinga. Ryan Pickett is overpayed for being a run stuffer only.

I don't think Wells has the leverage he thinks he does. 290 lb centers at age 31 are not coveted by teams. He's a decent player but not even close to a top five center.
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Packers_Finland
12 years ago

If some other team wants to overpay a former Packers' offensive lineman, let them. We can all see how far that got the Arizona Cardinals this year.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



Wells and Colledge are completely different players. Wells was a top five center last year... so it's justified for him to ask that kind of money. Whether it's right for Ted to give it to him, that's completely different.

Everyone knew Colledge sucked (well except for Zero2Cool and Daryn's wife) when he left. Wells is a great center.

I'd hate to see him leave, but we may have to let him walk.
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DoddPower
12 years ago
Wade, I don't think it's likely he would sign another free agent center, but if Wells leaves butt hurt we may be forced to, or at least one that is willing to sign for slightly cheaper than Wells. The main point is that the free agent class is pretty damn nice at center this season. If for whatever reason something can't be worked out with Wells, we're not screwed. Ted would have at least a couple of other options. Who knows, perhaps he thinks another option is way better than Wells? Perhaps another center will be willing to accept what money Ted deems him to be worth. There's no way to know, but if Wells leave, he will have many other options. None of them may happen, but that will be a decisive decision not necessarily a forced one.
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