texaspackerbacker
11 years ago

Don't see what's so abnormal. Lacy will be the FB.

Kuhn is a "hybrid" type FB anyway. It's becoming an obsolete position.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I'm not talking about the I Formation; I mean Lacy Fullback as in Jim Taylor/Larry Csonka Fullback - split backs. Is that what you are talking about too?


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beast
11 years ago

I keep hearing say put Lacy at FB... Why put a non-blocker at blocking position?

And yeah I know Lacy has hype for good pass blocking... but that's compared to the college level where most don't block at all. He still has to learn more to be a good blocker at the NFL level.


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nerdmann
11 years ago

I'm not talking about the I Formation; I mean Lacy Fullback as in Jim Taylor/Larry Csonka Fullback - split backs. Is that what you are talking about too?

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Sure, why not?

Guaranteed Mike's got something up his sleeve.
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nerdmann
11 years ago

I keep hearing say put Lacy at FB... Why put a non-blocker at blocking position?

And yeah I know Lacy has hype for good pass blocking... but that's compared to the college level where most don't block at all. He still has to learn more to be a good blocker at the NFL level.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Kuhn's nothing special as a blocker. Never has been. He's a slow HB who bulked up to make the team at FB. His specialization is those fake FB dive plays in short yardage.

Only reason he's so popular is that he's a caucasion "try hard" guy, like Spencer Havner and Aaron Kampman before him. That's the formula for fan favoritism in Green Bay.
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texaspackerbacker
11 years ago

I keep hearing say put Lacy at FB... Why put a non-blocker at blocking position?

And yeah I know Lacy has hype for good pass blocking... but that's compared to the college level where most don't block at all. He still has to learn more to be a good blocker at the NFL level.

Originally Posted by: beast 



It would be an all out WASTE to use Lacy as an I Formation fullback. I hope nobody is remotely even considering that. For those too young to remember, however, there was a time long ago when 2 RBs, one called a fullback, one called a halfback, but essentially playing the same role, lined up split behind the QB. In my non-professional but also not humble opinion, you had infinitely more possible variations that way; you had better positioning for pass blocking than with the I; and you had better position for screens and swing passes, even deeper patterns for the RBs than with the I. The only thing you need is for the RBs to block as well for each other as what a one dimensional fullback would do in the I.

I honestly don't know what teams see in the damn I formation anyway.

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yooperfan
11 years ago

It would be an all out WASTE to use Lacy as an I Formation fullback. I hope nobody is remotely even considering that. For those too young to remember, however, there was a time long ago when 2 RBs, one called a fullback, one called a halfback, but essentially playing the same role, lined up split behind the QB. In my non-professional but also not humble opinion, you had infinitely more possible variations that way; you had better positioning for pass blocking than with the I; and you had better position for screens and swing passes, even deeper patterns for the RBs than with the I. The only thing you need is for the RBs to block as well for each other as what a one dimensional fullback would do in the I.

I honestly don't know what teams see in the damn I formation anyway.

Z2C, please print this out and use your massive prestige and press credentials to hand it personally to Mike McCarthy hahahahaha.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



I'm all for that, us old guys remember real football.
We could even go back to the "wing T" with Cobb as the wing back.
Now that is a wideopen offense that we ran in 1965.

nerdmann
11 years ago
I think they only reason they went to the I was because Cedric like to run out of that formation.
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Dexter_Sinister
11 years ago
MM is not a system guy. He is a talent guy.

If we have a surplus of talent at FB, we will see a lot of multiple FB sets.
If we have a surplus of talent at TE, we will see a lot of multiple TE sets

Now, if they all stay healthy, we have a lot of RBs. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see more than one on the field at a time.

But it is difficult to predict how we go into the season. Injuries can change the roster a lot before we play a real game.
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OlHoss1884
11 years ago

It would be an all out WASTE to use Lacy as an I Formation fullback. I hope nobody is remotely even considering that. For those too young to remember, however, there was a time long ago when 2 RBs, one called a fullback, one called a halfback, but essentially playing the same role, lined up split behind the QB. In my non-professional but also not humble opinion, you had infinitely more possible variations that way; you had better positioning for pass blocking than with the I; and you had better position for screens and swing passes, even deeper patterns for the RBs than with the I. The only thing you need is for the RBs to block as well for each other as what a one dimensional fullback would do in the I.

I honestly don't know what teams see in the damn I formation anyway.

Z2C, please print this out and use your massive prestige and press credentials to hand it personally to Mike McCarthy hahahahaha.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



MacArthur Lane/John Brockington ftw! (I am a little young for Hornung/Taylor). This is true but I can tell you in those days both backs were expected to know how to throw a block on a LB to spring the other. No one had to be a great blocker but had to be willing to get in there. As I understand it both of these guys are good at picking up blitzes so Idon't see why they would have an issue with that. What I would think more likely in such a formation is one going tothe flat and the other pass blocking, or similar movement on a draw play.

Think of a defense trying to plan a third and three with Lacy and Frnaklin in the backfied, Jones and Nelson wide and Finley in the slot. Run or pass?
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texaspackerbacker
11 years ago

MacArthur Lane/John Brockington ftw! (I am a little young for Hornung/Taylor). This is true but I can tell you in those days both backs were expected to know how to throw a block on a LB to spring the other. No one had to be a great blocker but had to be willing to get in there. As I understand it both of these guys are good at picking up blitzes so Idon't see why they would have an issue with that. What I would think more likely in such a formation is one going tothe flat and the other pass blocking, or similar movement on a draw play.

Think of a defense trying to plan a third and three with Lacy and Frnaklin in the backfied, Jones and Nelson wide and Finley in the slot. Run or pass?

Originally Posted by: OlHoss1884 



Precisely! And I have yet to read a downside to this old-fashioned split backs thing.

There's a degree of peer pressure or whatever you call it - you scratch my back/I'll scratch yours kind of thing with the blocking which I would think would motivate a couple of fairly equal star players - kinda like the NBA phenomenon in recent decades of passing the ball/setting up the other guy.


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