Broncos secondary shocked at their own success last night

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

In holding Aaron Rodgers to just 77 passing yards (50 net if you count the lost sack yardage), the Broncos secondary made a huge statement, so it’s understandable they were excited.

“We just held Aaron Rodgers to 50 yards!” cornerback Chris Harris told Peter King of TheMMQB.com. “AARON RODGERS! That’s a little shocking.”

Continue Reading @ Darin Gantt

Darin Gantt wrote:

It IS shocking, but it's more on the Packers not showing up, or as Gary Ellerson and Bill Micheals said, "Coming out flat." than it is on the Broncos dominance.

If this team ever plays up to it's potential, it could put the Lombardi years to shame. And that's no joke. But that's also a huge IF.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

Wanna join the discussion?! Login to your PACKERSHOME forum account or Register a new forum account

dhazer
Veteran Member

8 years ago

I am tired of the playing up to potential BullShit, how about just admitting they beat our ass. I have no problem saying it because look at the past history and how well Rodgers does against a good defense. He sucks against anyone that can cover our guys. Look at the Bills and the Seahawks they made Rodgers look shitty. The Broncos defense is a top defense and they showed it, give them credit.

Edit: The living up to potential goes for every team so why would we be better than anyone else? If you go by potential the Browns should have like 4 or 5 Super Bowls in a row with all their 1st round picks. So enough with the potential BS

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

luigis
Member

8 years ago

Originally Posted by: dhazer

I think it takes two to tango. We have been playing this dull offense all season long, they prepared for it and after two weeks we came out without a single new idea so it was quite expected that whatever they prepared was going to work.

I thin this game was a monumental flaw in preparation by MM, not only he didn't change anything, he didn't realize this offense wasn't going to work against Denver. In other words he expected to beat the Denver defense in the same way we beat Kansas City, I think this is in the border of insanity.

The whole concept of "we have such a great team we can play classic football and win" is driving me nuts. Why? Because in the state of the NFC we can actually get to the superbowl with this nonsense and we are going to be destroyed by the Patriots. Is Mike McCarthy smart enough to realize we need to add many wrinkles to our offense? I don't know...

Luis

steveishere
Veteran Member

8 years ago

Not too hard when Rodgers wouldn't even try to test them. It seems like the STL game got in his head and now he's gun shy. He won't even put the ball on the WRs when they are open it's at their feet or way out in front. I love Rodgers game when he's safe with the ball and whatnot but the last 2 games he's just completely avoiding any risk whatsoever. He needs to show some trust in the WRs and put the ball on them. There is absolutely no benefit to playing safe football late in a game when you are down by 2 TDs. Rodgers is extremely accurate and can throw guys open if he has to so I'm absolutely not buying the "guys aren't getting open" crap. This team isn't talentless on offense, Rodgers and McCarthy need to show up because the last 2 weeks they've severely underperformed.

musccy
Veteran Member

8 years ago

Originally Posted by: dhazer

More or less agreed. Lets call a spade a spade. I don't know if the stacked routes/slants/motion/trusting his WRs to make a play or whatever else we're clamoring for will make the difference going forward but lets not discredit Denver. They kicked the $hit out of the Packers last night. 140 yards. Forget about potential last night, it was a beatdown.

luigis
Member

8 years ago

Originally Posted by: musccy

I would agree if we had actually thrown the ball and got deflected, defended or intercepted. But we never tried. And while it is true that it's harder without Jordy I think both Cobb and JJ can win a one on one ball against a Denver CB. We might have gotten picked a couple of times but we might have also gotten some big plays, and once you get those big plays their defense changes...

I think Rodgers played a lot worse than what his numbers show, and he looked annoyed with the playcalling all night long too.

Denver has a great defense and we have a great QB and two very good WRs, I think the best plan was to gamble on them making plays. The idea of slowly developing routes to get somebody open against Denver is absurd.

Luis

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

Originally Posted by: dhazer

I'm not saying we have players with skills that we could potentially develop. I'm saying they are already that good.

Remember in January? We proved we were the better team, then turned around and handed the game away. Yesterday was the same thing, except for the full 60 instead of the final 5:00.

In 2011 guys like Clay talked shit in the press about how, "we beat ourselves." Well guess what. Yesterday even the Broncos themselves were astonished at what a shit we took.

Mike's teams have been doing this for 10 years. He needs to hire a sports psychologist, because he's never had his team mentally or emotionally ready.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

DoddPower
Veteran Member

8 years ago

Rodgers is extremely accurate and can throw guys open if he has to so I'm absolutely not buying the "guys aren't getting open" crap. This team isn't talentless on offense, Rodgers and McCarthy need to show up because the last 2 weeks they've severely underperformed.

Originally Posted by: steveishere

Have you watched the Wide Receivers closely the past year or two? They consistently fail to create much separation. The only reason the Packers have had the success they had is because Aaron Rodgers consistently fits the ball into incredibly tight windows that many other QBs simply cannot. The separation issue isn't "crap" at all. It's reality.

I think talent is the issue to some extent, but I think the bigger issue is coaching and scheming. How do you think Bill Belichik would run the Packers offense? Suffice it to say I think it would still be proficient this season and probably the best in the league. But I suppose it's not fair to compare Mike McCarthy to Bill Belichik. The two coaches are obviously on different levels.

sschind
Senior Member

8 years ago

It IS shocking, but it's more on the Packers not showing up, or as Gary Ellerson and Bill Micheals said, "Coming out flat." than it is on the Broncos dominance.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

No, it really isn't. Its about the Broncos coming out and kicking our asses and then when they got done kicking them they reached down, picked them, up and handed them back to us with an "excuse me, I think this belongs to you"

I've come to expect it from you that you can't give the other team credit but I figured after last night you'd have to at least acknowledge it. I guess I was wrong. After last night I'm wondering what an opponent would have to do for you to simply say "they beat us"

I'm thinking that if the Packers were Ray Rice's girlfriend you'd be saying Ray didn't beat her she shit herself in that elevator.

luigis
Member

8 years ago

#10

Originally Posted by: DoddPower

Your post got me thinking.
Would you fire a coach that won a SB, made it to the playoffs almost every season, got to the championship game last year and has a 6-1 record? Of course not. But what if I told you many other coaches would actually do better with the talent he has?
My point is: a good coach can get fired at Jacksonville or Cleveland and a bad coach can stay for many years in Denver, Green Bay or Indianapolis.

I like Mike McCarthy and I wouldn't fire him but I think he is in the middle of the pack about coaching. I think there's a list of teams we can defeat and a list of teams we can't defeat. It just it is what it is and we are fixed.

In the SB we got the right combination of opponents to win all the games, Philadelphia with Andy Reid, Atlanta with Mike Smith , Chicago with Lovie Smith and then Pittsburgh with Tomlin.

Granted, we are going to he playoffs, we can beat any NFC team at home, some teams might be dangerous if they make it: New York with Coughlin, New Orleans with S.Payton, Seattle with Carroll.

If we make it let's better hope the Patriots got knocked out because if we have to play the Pats in the SB it's not going to be pretty.

Luis

Important Information:

The PACKERSHOME uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. More Details Close

Fan Shout

Zero2Cool (2h) : $170 guaranteed. This might impact Jordan Love

Zero2Cool (2h) : Lions are signing QB Jared Goff to a four-year, $212 million extension

Zero2Cool (6h) : I know we moved on. That tidbit just makes me a touch happier.

Zero2Cool (6h) : Sources spoke of many, many times last summer where Hackett called a play, then Rodgers changed it completely at the line

Martha Careful (10-May) : 1. this is true of all our linemen. 2. His run block is fine. 3. If all OL played like he has, we would win SB.

beast (10-May) : Meyers pass blocking is really good, his run blocking is really not.

Zero2Cool (9-May) : Packers have claimed DE Spencer Waege off of waivers from the 49ers and waived DT Rodney Mathews.

Zero2Cool (9-May) : And the OL protections seem to be good.

Zero2Cool (9-May) : I really don't know lol. I don't see him getting blown up.

Zero2Cool (9-May) : -3 buwahhhahaaha

Mucky Tundra (9-May) : 4th

Zero2Cool (9-May) : because he's 1st

Mucky Tundra (9-May) : Myers isn't even the 3rd best C on the roster atm

Martha Careful (9-May) : I am not sure I understand the Myers hate. He was consistently our third best lineman. RG and LT were worse.

beast (9-May) : Just saying I don't think moving Myers would help Myers.

beast (9-May) : Center is usually considered the easiest position physically if you can handle the snap stuff.

Mucky Tundra (8-May) : Bust it is then

Zero2Cool (8-May) : Context. Sounds like Myers won't be cross-trained. C or bust.

Mucky Tundra (8-May) : @BookOfEli_NFL Packers pass game coordinator, Jason Vrable said that Jayden Reed and Dontayvion Wicks shared a placed in Florida while train

Mucky Tundra (8-May) : For now...

Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers go about evaluating their "best five," OL coach Luke Butkus makes on thing clear: "Josh Myers is our center."

beast (8-May) : Though I'm a bit surprised letting go of CBs, I thought we needed more not less

beast (8-May) : It was confusing with two DB Anthony Johnson anyways

Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers actually had Ray Lewis on the phone.

Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers wanted to draft Ray Lewis. Ravens stole him.

Martha Careful (6-May) : Happy 93rd Birthday to the Greatest Baseball Player of All-Time...Willie Mays

Zero2Cool (6-May) : Walter Stanely's son

buckeyepackfan (6-May) : and released CB Anthony Johnson and DL Deandre Johnson and waived/injured WR Thyrick Pitts (thigh-rick).

buckeyepackfan (6-May) : The Green Bay Packers have signed WR Julian Hicks, OL Lecitus Smith (luh-SEET-us) and WR Dimitri Stanley

Zero2Cool (6-May) : Petty, but it's annoying me how the NFL is making the schedule release an event.

Mucky Tundra (4-May) : @mattschneidman Matt LaFleur on how he tore his pec: “Got in a fight with the bench press. I lost.”

Zero2Cool (3-May) : Jordan Love CAN sign an extension as of today. Might tak weeks/months though

TheKanataThrilla (3-May) : Packers decline 5th year option for Stokes

Mucky Tundra (3-May) : @ProFootballTalk Jaylen Warren: Steelers' special teams coach has discussed Justin Fields returning kicks.

Zero2Cool (2-May) : Season officially ending tonight for Bucks ... sad face

Zero2Cool (2-May) : Giannis Antetokounmpo is listed as out for tonight's game.

dfosterf (2-May) : Surprisingly low initially is my guess cap wise, but gonna pay the piper after that

dfosterf (2-May) : The number on Love is going to be brutal.

Zero2Cool (2-May) : May 3rd. Extension day for Jordan Love. (soonest)

Zero2Cool (1-May) : USFL MVP QB Alex McGough moved to WR. So that's why no WR drafted!

earthquake (1-May) : Packers draft starters at safety ever few years. Collins, Clinton-Dix, Savage

beast (1-May) : Why can't the rookies be a day 1 starter? Especially when we grabbed 3 of them at the position

dfosterf (1-May) : Not going to be shocked if Gilmore goes to the Lions.

dfosterf (1-May) : I hear you dhazer, but my guess would be Gilmore Colts and Howard Vikings from what little has been reported.

Mucky Tundra (30-Apr) : S learn from McKinney who learns from Hafley who learns from the fans. Guaranteed Super Bowl

Zero2Cool (30-Apr) : could*

Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : Safeties should learn from Xavier.

dhazer (29-Apr) : And what about grabbing a Gilmore or Howard at CB ? Those are all Free Agents left

dhazer (29-Apr) : out of curiosity do they try and sign Simmons or Hyde to let these young safeties learn from, they can't be day 1 starters.

Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : I miss having Sam Shields.

Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2024 Packers Schedule