nerdmann
7 years ago

This is ignorant. The reason the Packers always have a chance is Aaron Rodgers, not bottom of the roster scrubs that can be found my most GMs every year. Others besides Aaron Rodgers need to step-up, especially on defense. How good would this team have been the past several years if they had an above average to good defense consistently? Probably at least one more super bowl championship, and few more visits.

People hold Aaron Rodgers to a standard to almost be perfect and play at an elite level and make few mistakes while accepting mediocrity from the rest of the roster. Makes sense.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



How many teams could lose their top 4 CBs and still make the NFCCG? How many teams could lose their top 7 WRs and still take the Cardinals to OT in the division round?

Aaron played great, after shitting himself (and the rest of the team) to 4-6.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Cheesey
7 years ago

How many teams could lose their top 4 CBs and still make the NFCCG? How many teams could lose their top 7 WRs and still take the Cardinals to OT in the division round?

Aaron played great, after shitting himself (and the rest of the team) to 4-6.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



And that is because of Aaron Rodgers, not the lousy defense we have.
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DoddPower
7 years ago

And that is because of Aaron Rodgers, not the lousy defense we have.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Exactly. It certainly wasn't a result of the embarrassing defense. The Packers do have a good offensive line, but even they seemed to struggle late in the year. The Packers have average running backs and receiving core. Rodgers carried them. If Rodgers doesn't play at an elite superstar level, the Packers are garbage. This team would go no where without him. It's time for some others to step-up instead of all the pressure constantly being on Rodgers year-after-year-after-year. There are a lot of other players on the Packers that are getting paid handsomely and playing worse than Rodgers did early in the season for entire seasons, not just a bad stretch, which most players are going to have occasionally. They need to step-up or find employment elsewhere.
Barfarn
7 years ago
Nerd is 100% correct!

Depth was not our problem. Our depth was young; but it was really good in 2016; especially compared to other teams

Going into the season, it was scary having the unproven Gunter as our 4th CB. But, after injuries allowed him to play, we learned what the staff knew all along, that Gunter was amongst the best, if not the best, #4 CB in the league. Hyde played darn good as a #5 and Goodson was a pretty solid #6.

Hyde was good as #3 safety. Banjo couldn’t stay healthy as our #4; but Brice wasn’t too bad as a #5.

Cant imagine a back-up ILB being much better than Thomas. Peppers, Jones, Elliot, Fackrell was great depth at OLB. And Lowry and Clark backing up DL with Pennel a no-show showed great depth there too.

Both our RBs go out; Monty and Ripkowski proved great depth. We went w/ 2 RBs because the staff knew what Monty and Rip could do if the unthinkable happened and both our RBs went down. Allison proved to be great depth at WR. Davis played well in the one game he got some snaps

We didn’t know a lot of these guys could play; but the staff did and when they got a chance they did nicely.

Brady played better than Rodgers with much less of an OL and much fewer weapons. The money saved from OL and WRs was invested in the D. Next year Brady makes 22M instead of 14, so that one less 8M guy or 2 less 4M guys on defense. Seattle is paying their OL NOTHING and Wilson has ZERO protection. This pays for 3-4 of their Defensive guys. You take Thomas away it hurt their D, take away 2-3 more and their D is not as good as GB's. Teams need to make choices. We pay 3 OLmen; Seattle pays zero and NE pays 1. We pay 2 WRs; NE doesn't pay any; Seattle pays 1.

Rodgers doesn't have to play great, he just has to play not like Cutler!!!! Rodgers played well in the 8-0 run; but I wouldn't say he "carried the team." Again we saw how the team played when Rodgers played well, we saw how the team played when he stunk. That is cause and effect! And everyone needs to stop thinking of Rodgers in terms of his play in 2011; unless he actually plays like that, HE DID NOT in most of '15 and '16. If he plays like he did in 2011, we'd have been 15-1/14-2, maybe 16-0 the last 2 years. If he plays like he did in streak we'll be 13-3/12-4. If he plays like Cutler we're 8-8/7-9 and we're 10-6/9-7 with Hundley starting.

“People have a habit of inventing fictions they will believe wholeheartedly in order to ignore the truth they cannot accept.” Zero2Cool 😂

STOP inventing fictions about how Rodgers is playing.
Bigbyfan
7 years ago
Some folks here are gonna be in for a rude awakening whenever Rodgers is no longer under center.
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7 years ago

Some folks here are gonna be in for a rude awakening whenever Rodgers is no longer under center.

Originally Posted by: Bigbyfan 



Everyone should know exactly what will happen when Aaron Rodgers is no longer under center. Back to back HoF QBs don't come along every day.
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yooperfan
7 years ago

Everyone should know exactly what will happen when Aaron Rodgers is no longer under center. Back to back HoF QBs don't come along every day.

Originally Posted by: wpr 


You're absolutely correct.
I'm pretty sure we have all seen the team Thompson has built without Aaron Rodgers on the field.

Barfarn
7 years ago

Some folks here are gonna be in for a rude awakening whenever Rodgers is no longer under center.

Originally Posted by: Bigbyfan 



The awakening will occur when McCarthy is gone.

If Wash and GB switched picks and GB took Jason Campbell, Bigby would have written, "Some folks here are gonna be in for a rude awakening whenever Campbell is no longer under center and what kinda dumbass believed that Kelly Anne Conway media hype crap that Smith and Rodgers were the #1 and #2 picks, Ted was a genius for passing on him." Go back and look at Rodgers' tape; the guy was a dinker and a dunker, he couldnt throw those 20 super accurate lasers. McCarthy 100% made Rodgers. If McCarthy stayed in SF, Smith would be in consideration for GOAT.

If the Brady draft were re-held today, The only team drafting him earlier would be New England, because they knew what they could do with him in their system. If Cleveland drafted Brady, he'd have less accumulated stats than Tim Couch at this point.
PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago

The awakening will occur when McCarthy is gone.

If Wash and GB switched picks and GB took Jason Campbell, Bigby would have written, "Some folks here are gonna be in for a rude awakening whenever Campbell is no longer under center and what kinda dumbass believed that Kelly Anne Conway media hype crap that Smith and Rodgers were the #1 and #2 picks, Ted was a genius for passing on him." Go back and look at Rodgers' tape; the guy was a dinker and a dunker, he couldnt throw those 20 super accurate lasers. McCarthy 100% made Rodgers. If McCarthy stayed in SF, Smith would be in consideration for GOAT.

If the Brady draft were re-held today, The only team drafting him earlier would be New England, because they knew what they could do with him in their system. If Cleveland drafted Brady, he'd have less accumulated stats than Tim Couch at this point.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



Either lay off the drugs, or have enough to share with everybody else.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Nonstopdrivel
7 years ago
I was probably Ted Thompson's biggest fan for many years, but I'm rapidly losing patience with his continual inability to field anything resembling a credible defense, a running game that isn't laughable, and a consistently respectable offensive line. At the rate he's going, he's going to be remembered as the Bill Polian of the Packers -- and that is not a compliment. The parallels are eerie, really. At least Polian had an eye for rushing talent.
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