I'm not sure Clifton is a candidate to be released, even given his contract amount + structure. He has been reliable for the most part this year, and been relatively healthy.

Driver, I think, has shown he can still be reliable. Against Philly, he had 5 catches, four of which were for first down. Yes he was not at his best during the season, but I really wonder if Ted will cut Driver given his experience and leadership.

If we're going to talk about Barnett, we might as well mention Hawk, who has a higher price than Barnett and has 1 less year left on his contract.

I wasn't intending to draw a direct reference between the two, rather trying to state given that we may resign Jenkins, there may be limits imposed on us (like you mentioned, in terms of cap and guaranteed money) that prohibit us from competing for Asomugha's services.

It is all speculation because we don't know what the CBA will be like... so this is pretty much an exercise in speculating circumstances.

But I did overlook the fact that we could very well cut some player - an ILB, for example - and save money there and use that. Asomugha would look good in Green and Gold...

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All I was trying to do is reference that there are so many moving parts on a roster that we can't draw direct references between player A or B.

Do I think Chad is in Green and Gold next season.. most likely. Good insurance if nothing else.

Driver. Probably.. on heart and determination alone.

Barnett... don't think he will be.. Hawk and Bishop have performed very well in tandem.. I think Hawk will be extended with a better cap number and Barnett will be moved, reduced or released.

The building of a roster is more dynamic than Player A or Player B at two different positions on the roster. Nothing more.

Sorry if it came off harsh or wrong.

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Yes you're right, I was mostly thinking along the lines that both Nnamdi and Cullen will command alot of money and Green Bay could only afford one if they wanted to retain a complete roster. But we have no idea about what the CBA will be like as you said.

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What I'm saying is "making it work" requires a willingness to build the defense around the strengths of the players. Many coordinators would rather fit the players to the system, than the system to the players. What has been genius about Capers this year is how he has put his players in positions to utilize their unique abilities. How many DCs are going to risk using a DPOY cornerback to play roving linebacker?

I'm not saying Capers is the only DC who would do this. I'm saying that if you have three topshelf cornerbacks (Asomugha, Woodson, Williams) and a fourth who's growing by leaps and bounds (Shields), to make it work you are going to have to shift someone somewhere. And that shifting is more than just saying "Charles, you play safety." It's saying "Charles, you're going to be doing this and this and this, some of which is safety-type stuff, some of which is CB-type stuff, and some of which is neither.

Think of the coordinators we had before Capers. Do you really think some of those guys are going to be as willing to/as able to go outside the box the way Capers has?

And, it seems to me, unless you have someone who does, it would be silly to spend what its going to cost to get Asomugha.

Capers has demonstrated to me that he would make it worth the acquisition cost. That's what I'm saying.

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No need to apologize at all; you were right that I overlooked the fact that roster fluidity would contribute to much of the decisions. That is a valid point that I overlooked. I hope my post did not come off as harsh, I was trying to really get to the point, not act offended.

I also wonder if Woodson would be willing to perhaps reduce some of his salary if don't have sufficient money to sign Asomugha. But so much can change with player releases and the new CBA that it is fruitless to speculate when so much can potentially change.

I do disagree that Barnett is more at risk than Hawk, but that is a debate for another time and in another thread. 🙂

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Much has been made of the Jets' secondary, what with Cromartie and a dominant Revis. If Green Bay were to bring in Nnamdi Asomugha there's no doubt who'd be crowned as paper champs of the secondary. It's actually a little chilling to imagine a defense with NA's blanket cover skills; Woodson's playmaking and toughness; Tramon's shutdown potential; and Nick Collins' closing speed.

I'm not trying to be dramatic, but I'd sort of make the parallel to Pittsburgh's Steel Curtain. Granted for them the depth was more along the front seven -- Greene, Lambert, Ham, Greenwood (not forgetting about Mel Blount -- but he was in the secondary). I know, those guys are HOFers. The point here is that Green Bay would possess an absurd amount of talent on defense.

I'm still quite jazzed about our prospects this year ... but the thought of nabbing Asomugha m-m-m-makes me stutter.

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Again, we don't know what the cap will be so to say that he'd cost us more than we can spend because of the cap is premature. The point was acknowledge in a previous post as well.

All I'm saying is ... it shouldn't be ruled out. If he truly WANTS to come to the Packers, there's a reason, and its a ring, its not money. The guy has millions of dollars already and I think now he wants a ring more than money.



Edit, going more to my point about how much money he already has. He was paid $38 million in the last three years. If he goes to the highest bidder, he's not the type of player we'd want anyhow.

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Good thing we didn't get that Charles Woodson guy back in the day because he was injury prone and over the hill.







btw, Ted has said that he believes you can add defensive players easier than offensive in free agency. He said offensive players in free agency are more of a risk.

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Not sure what ya expected the big fella to do, but whats wrong with the one we have?

:sarcasm:

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My bad.

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