yooperfan
4 years ago
I think the Packers should trade their whole 2020 draft for the first pick and select Joe Burrow as Rodgers replacement.
(Tongue in cheek) but it sure would be nice to get him.
TheKanataThrilla
4 years ago

I think the Packers should trade their whole 2020 draft for the first pick and select Joe Burrow as Rodgers replacement.
(Tongue in cheek) but it sure would be nice to get him.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



I like that kid from Clemson. Not sure when he might declare for the Draft though.

go.pack.go.
4 years ago

Funny you say that because you are the exact opposite. Any time someone critiques Rodgers they are just haters and it's his receivers fault. "Rodgers didn't drop those passes! He can't throw it and catch it too! Your argument is invalid!" Solid.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



That’s because you blame literally everything on Rodgers lol. I admit that he holds the ball too long sometimes. But when you blame literally every bad thing that happens on Rodgers, yeah that gets old.
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gbguy20
4 years ago

That’s because you blame literally everything on Rodgers lol. I admit that he holds the ball too long sometimes. But when you blame literally every bad thing that happens on Rodgers, yeah that gets old.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 



I don't blame everything on Rodgers, that's pretty far from the truth actually. Here's what i say about Rodgers:
- he holds the ball way too fucking long unnecessarily and tries to play backyard football too often. When he extends the play our inexperienced receivers really stick out in a bad way. But let me be clear, those inexperienced WRs are running open all over within their routes and timing of the play. Rodgers won't pull the trigger. Thus the storyline where the media pushes "the wr's can't get open." Watch the damn tape. They're open all over.

Earlier in the thread I said Rodgers has declined considerably since 2014 but I 100% do not think it is an age or physical thing. It's mental. If he could get his mindset back to what it was pre2015 he would still be the best QB in the league. He has all the talent in the world, his mindset and the way he looks at things is holding him back. He used to throw when the wr was about to be open, and he did amazing things and the wrs had tons of YAC. Now he won't throw until they are already extra open, which is screwing everything up.

If he fixes that 1 problem we'll be on another level.
gbguy20
4 years ago
"Brees, who set the NFL’s all-time record for career passing touchdowns record, completed 29 of 30 passes for 307 yards and four touchdowns. That gave him the single-game NFL record for completion percentage in a game, with a minimum of 25 attempts."
gbguy20
4 years ago
Just stumbled across this article in the feed below.

https://lombardiave.com/2019/12/16/packers-aaron-rodgers-problem/ 
go.pack.go.
4 years ago

I don't blame everything on Rodgers, that's pretty far from the truth actually. Here's what i say about Rodgers:
- he holds the ball way too fucking long unnecessarily and tries to play backyard football too often. When he extends the play our inexperienced receivers really stick out in a bad way. But let me be clear, those inexperienced WRs are running open all over within their routes and timing of the play. Rodgers won't pull the trigger. Thus the storyline where the media pushes "the wr's can't get open." Watch the damn tape. They're open all over.

Earlier in the thread I said Rodgers has declined considerably since 2014 but I 100% do not think it is an age or physical thing. It's mental. If he could get his mindset back to what it was pre2015 he would still be the best QB in the league. He has all the talent in the world, his mindset and the way he looks at things is holding him back. He used to throw when the wr was about to be open, and he did amazing things and the wrs had tons of YAC. Now he won't throw until they are already extra open, which is screwing everything up.

If he fixes that 1 problem we'll be on another level.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



I just can’t believe that you think these receivers are “open all over”. Because they’re definitely not. Not even close. There’s probably a play or two here & there that a receiver is open for a glimpse, but he’s going through his other progressions that are not open. And I believe that you forget to consider what’s going on in the backfield.

What about the Kumerow catch? He threw that before the receiver was open.

It’s hard to trust receivers that drop the ball a lot of the time. And don’t consistently get open. And fumble it whenever they DO catch it.

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Zero2Cool
4 years ago

I just can’t believe that you think these receivers are “open all over”. Because they’re definitely not. Not even close. There’s probably a play or two here & there that a receiver is open for a glimpse, but he’s going through his other progressions that are not open. And I believe that you forget to consider what’s going on in the backfield.

What about the Kumerow catch? He threw that before the receiver was open.

It’s hard to trust receivers that drop the ball a lot of the time. And don’t consistently get open. And fumble it whenever they DO catch it.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 



We do have targets that are open. It is also unreasonable to expect/demand Aaron Rodgers to see them as we do. We are sitting in the comforts of our home. He's got progressions and defense to read. And often times, just because we see someone uncovered, that doesn't mean the QB is even look at that direction because the progression could be elsewhere. This is the part that fans fail to comprehend.

So, yes. Fans see receivers open all the time. However, that does not mean the QB sees them, or that they are truly open. This is a part I see many of us failing to understand or appreciate when saying "OMG so-n-so is wide open!". Sometimes there is a DB lurking, baiting the QB.

As for failing to trust WR's and not throwing to them. That is not Aaron Rodgers. He has said himself if the guy is on the field and open that he should expect the ball to be thrown. I believe he said this numerous times specifically about James Jones and Davante Adams.

I have qualms with Aaron Rodgers, to be sure. That said, I also appreciate how (as much as some bum who watches too much football can) difficult it must be playing QB.

I also think his comments about coming towards the end of his career have him more wary of taking hits, which has him looking at the OL more. And it also has him pressing himself too much.

Why I am not worried? Aaron Rodgers has a defense that affords him the ability to take chances. In the '90s Brett Favre said he wasn't worried about throwing interceptions mainly because the defense would get him the ball back. In other words, Favre knew it wasn't all on him. Rodgers is slowly realizing it isn't all on him.



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gbguy20
4 years ago


I also think his comments about coming towards the end of his career have him more wary of taking hits, which has him looking at the OL more. And it also has him pressing himself too much.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Glad you brought this up because Rogers does not play like an old man. He does not play like a man in self preservation mode, in my opinion. Look at Brady, look at Brees, remember how Peyton played at the end?

None of them hold the ball forever. They don't stare down their lines. They take the quick hitters. They play within the timing and take what the defense gives them.

In comparison you can also take this to the other end of the spectrum. The rookie QB's who are wide eyed and scared on the field. What are they doing? Getting rid of the damn ball.
dyeah_gb
4 years ago

We do have targets that are open. It is also unreasonable to expect/demand Aaron Rodgers to see them as we do. We are sitting in the comforts of our home. He's got progressions and defense to read. And often times, just because we see someone uncovered, that doesn't mean the QB is even look at that direction because the progression could be elsewhere. This is the part that fans fail to comprehend.

...

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



WRs are open. At the same time, the QB knows the play that is being called and that should steer him as to where to look and when to do it; something the fans don't have any knowledge of. The WRs play a big role here too of course. It does not help the QB if the WR is open but not at all where they are expected to be. We all have heard of good route running WRs that play a key role in this game of chess.

It is hard for me to tell on any given play who is to blame but the aggregate statistics show Rodgers holds on to the ball too long and he needs to change part of his execution for the offense to have a chance against the top teams.


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