earthquake
a year ago
I think the time to bring in a FA was before the draft. After taking 3 guys in the draft I think they have to roll with who they've got now, barring a couple of season-ending injuries or something like that. I think bringing in someone like Julio Jones or Beckham might make sense mid-to-late season if depth gets thin. But not now.
blank
Cheesey
a year ago

Has had a degenerative ankle condition since 2012. Would be out of the league if not for Aaron.

Stepped ahead of Amari last year. We need veterans who know how to get it done this year. Let's see what he's got left.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Yes....and yet he still makes plays.
You are probably right. If not for Rodgers, he probably would be out of football. But last year he showed that he could still make plays when called on.
I guess we will see how he is this season. Me, I'm not counting him out
UserPostedImage
Zero2Cool
a year ago

I don't understand why so few are expecting much from Cobb. He might not be "great", but when called on he comes through. He made some great plays when needed.
And with Adams gone, he will be called on even more.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Because they are haters of the hating kind of hatred.

I think Randall Cobb contributions come on need to move chain downs. And his leadership, mentorship to the youngsters. Those are big things, but since SportsCenter isn't going to be touting his TD's and Yardage some haters just spit that hate.


BTW, the "hate" stuff is me being facetious.
UserPostedImage
dyeah_gb
a year ago

I don't understand why so few are expecting much from Cobb. He might not be "great", but when called on he comes through. He made some great plays when needed.
And with Adams gone, he will be called on even more.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Cobb can be schemed open and can probably execute better than most of the young guys. I doubt he can be relied upon to beat anyone off the line or create separation on his own. It is good to have veteran leadership but that needs to be balanced with developing the future.
The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool - R. Feynman
nerdmann
a year ago

Cobb can be schemed open and can probably execute better than most of the young guys. I doubt he can be relied upon to beat anyone off the line or create separation on his own. It is good to have veteran leadership but that needs to be balanced with developing the future.

Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb 



Watson is gonna go deep, clearing out safeties so Cobb and Lazard can get open underneath, like that last play in the playoffs.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
earthquake
a year ago
As far as Cobb goes, I would count on him to be a solid #3 and miss around 5 games, but to play reasonably well when he's healthy. Since his career-best season in 2014 (when Jordy Nelson missed the year and he was the #1), he's only topped 800 yards twice. He also hasn't played a full 16-game season since 2014, missing 19 games in the last 4 seasons combined. If Cobb can stay healthy all season maybe he can get 700 yards with 5-6 TDs but going into his 10th season I wouldn't count on him to step in and be Devante Adams light.

I also wouldn't be shocked if the Packers don't end up with a single guy who tops 1000 yards, but still have a top 5 offense with Rodgers having another MVP type year.
blank
Cheesey
a year ago

Because they are haters of the hating kind of hatred.

I think Randall Cobb contributions come on need to move chain downs. And his leadership, mentorship to the youngsters. Those are big things, but since SportsCenter isn't going to be touting his TD's and Yardage some haters just spit that hate.


BTW, the "hate" stuff is me being facetious.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I HATE the haters that love to hate! Hating is something that should be hated!
😁😜
UserPostedImage
beast
a year ago
Well that did add veteran WR Watkins.

As far as adding another, I think it would help this season, especially in the first half, but overall it would hurt in the long run taking development space away from the youngsters.

And I think that's been a huge part of Gute's philosophy, if there is a guy there that they believe might develop and step up, then clear the room to give them space to just that...

Now, that hurts when you miss (releasing Nelson), but it's helped more guys develop and have somewhere to step up into, giving opportunities to guys to try to step up, like the OL stepped up last year. And CBs stepped up too.

Of course some places it hasn't worked out, TE Graham and Sternberger, but if Gute thinks they have potential, he seems to try to give them a chance to proof it one way or the other.
UserPostedImage
bboystyle
a year ago
Im trying to be optimistic here but i just cant. Adding a WR would be a good thing not for the team, but for the QB. Rodgers has never utilized a rookie WR regardless of their status. If they drop a pass, he will ignore them the rest of the game and possibly longer. This whole earning his trust crap is what stops the development of our young WRs. Hell even a vet like Lewis got that treatment during the SF game.
beast
a year ago

Im trying to be optimistic here but i just cant. Adding a WR would be a good thing not for the team, but for the QB. Rodgers has never utilized a rookie WR regardless of their status. If they drop a pass, he will ignore them the rest of the game and possibly longer. This whole earning his trust crap is what stops the development of our young WRs. Hell even a vet like Lewis got that treatment during the SF game.

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 


That's an extremely unfair to pin on Rodgers, the rookie WRs inability to be a developed WR, especially when you look at the WR depth and rookie WRs he's had to work with...

2008: Nelson, he wasn't ready until like 3.5 years when he truely broke out.

2011: Cobb, they had a deep WR depth keeping Cobb in the bench and Cobb and Rodgers chemistry was great, and Rodgers won NFL MVP!

2014: Adams: had less than 60% catch rate and was #3 behind Nelson and Cobb whom dominated and once again Rodgers won NFL MVP.

2015: Ty Montgomery: I don't this he's developed into a starter with any QB yet.

2018: Moore, MVS, St. Brown... I think you can easily say Moore and St. Brown haven't developed into starters yet... MVS: I can argue that Rodgers should of had better chemistry with MVS, but for whatever reason, they always seemed a bit off the same page, but that was for four years, not just a rookie.

2021: Rodgers: he didn't seem to get on the field much...


Unless your specifically talking about MVS, I just don't see another case where Rodgers was in the position with a rookie WR that was ready to do that much more than they did as a rookie, as either the talented WR depth has held the rookie WR back (like with Cobb and Adams), or the WR just wasn't that good as a rookie (Monty, Moore, Rodgers).


So Rodgers is either 0/0 or 0/1 either way, it's an extremely small sample to make a judgement on how Rodgers is with ready to go rookie WRs, which by the way, most aren't ready to go as rookies like Greg Jennings was.

UserPostedImage
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (38m) : USFL MVP QB Alex McGough moved to WR. So that's why no WR drafted!
earthquake (4h) : Packers draft starters at safety ever few years. Collins, Clinton-Dix, Savage
beast (6h) : Why can't the rookies be a day 1 starter? Especially when we grabbed 3 of them at the position
dfosterf (9h) : Not going to be shocked if Gilmore goes to the Lions.
dfosterf (10h) : I hear you dhazer, but my guess would be Gilmore Colts and Howard Vikings from what little has been reported.
Mucky Tundra (30-Apr) : S learn from McKinney who learns from Hafley who learns from the fans. Guaranteed Super Bowl
Zero2Cool (30-Apr) : could*
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : Safeties should learn from Xavier.
dhazer (29-Apr) : And what about grabbing a Gilmore or Howard at CB ? Those are all Free Agents left
dhazer (29-Apr) : out of curiosity do they try and sign Simmons or Hyde to let these young safeties learn from, they can't be day 1 starters.
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : I miss having Sam Shields.
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : Not that he's making excuses, just pointing it out
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : That's for dang sure. Make our erratic kicker have no excuse!
packerfanoutwest (28-Apr) : having a great long snapper is gold
Zero2Cool (28-Apr) : LaFleur looking like he had some weight. Coachin will do that lol
Zero2Cool (28-Apr) : Thanks Mucky and whomever created topcos for each pick!
Zero2Cool (28-Apr) : Insane about Kingsley
dfosterf (28-Apr) : Putring it here so Mucky sees it. He was our guy!
dfosterf (28-Apr) : Bowden long snapper Wisconsin. Consensus best LS in college.
dfosterf (28-Apr) : We got Peter Bowde
dfosterf (28-Apr) : I personally interpret that as a partial tear that can be recovered from with rehab
dfosterf (28-Apr) : MLF said Kingsley Enagbare did NOT tear his ACL and did NOT require surgery, and that he is "looking good" for the 2024 season!
beast (28-Apr) : T.O. son signs with the 49ers
Mucky Tundra (28-Apr) : damn those vikings
beast (27-Apr) : UDFA Vikings sign TE – Trey Knox, South Carolina
beast (27-Apr) : Kitchen was all high from Miami, he was more lucky than talented in 2022 and it showed in 2023
beast (27-Apr) : Reportedly Packers have UDFAs Jennings and Jones
beast (27-Apr) : OL – Donovan Jennings, USF OT – Trente Jones, Michigan
TheKanataThrilla (27-Apr) : Interesting draft. A bit shocked that we didn't select an early CB. Definitely have Safety help. Pretty happy overall.
dhazer (27-Apr) : wow the last 2 picks are really stupid and probably will be special teams players Top 10 draft pick next year book it
TheKanataThrilla (27-Apr) : I think he ended up with a terrible RAS score
dhazer (27-Apr) : Anyone know what went on with Kitchens from Florida? At 1 point he was to be the Packers 1st round and he is way down the board now
Martha Careful (27-Apr) : Z, could you please combine my thread with yours please. I obviously did not see it when I Created it
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Re: 'Kool-Aid' McKinstry. Other than Icky Woods, has there ever been a good NFLer with a childish nickname?
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Packers looking to trade up
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Flag?
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Sag?
Nonstopdrivel (26-Apr) : It rhymes with "bag."
beast (26-Apr) : Family? That's Deadpool's F word
Nonstopdrivel (26-Apr) : Not THAT f-word.
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : fuck
beast (25-Apr) : 49ers are Cap Tight
beast (25-Apr) : Fuck
Mucky Tundra (25-Apr) : Kanata, I will be when I'm on my lunch later
TheKanataThrilla (25-Apr) : Love you NSD
Nonstopdrivel (25-Apr) : Huh. I guess the F-word is censored in this fan shout.
Nonstopdrivel (25-Apr) : Anyone who doesn't hang out in the chat probably smokes pole.
TheKanataThrilla (25-Apr) : GoPackGo Thinking CB is the pick tonight
TheKanataThrilla (25-Apr) : Anyone hanging out in the chat tonight?
Zero2Cool (25-Apr) : whoa...49ers have had trade conversations about both Deebo Samuel and Brandon Aiyuk
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2023 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 10 @ 3:25 PM
Bears
Sunday, Sep 17 @ 12:00 PM
Falcons
Sunday, Sep 24 @ 12:00 PM
SAINTS
Thursday, Sep 28 @ 7:15 PM
LIONS
Monday, Oct 9 @ 7:15 PM
Raiders
Sunday, Oct 22 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Sunday, Oct 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Nov 5 @ 12:00 PM
RAMS
Sunday, Nov 12 @ 12:00 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 19 @ 12:00 PM
CHARGERS
Thursday, Nov 23 @ 11:30 AM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 3 @ 7:20 PM
CHIEFS
Monday, Dec 11 @ 7:15 PM
Giants
Sunday, Dec 17 @ 12:00 PM
BUCCANEERS
Sunday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
Panthers
Sunday, Dec 31 @ 7:20 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 7 @ 3:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 14 @ 3:30 PM
Cowboys
Saturday, Jan 20 @ 7:15 PM
49ers
Recent Topics
35m / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

50m / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

8h / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

11h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

12h / Packers Draft Threads / dfosterf

30-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

29-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

29-Apr / Packers Draft Threads / Zero2Cool

29-Apr / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

29-Apr / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

29-Apr / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

28-Apr / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Zero2Cool

28-Apr / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

28-Apr / Packers Draft Threads / Martha Careful

28-Apr / Packers Draft Threads / Martha Careful

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.