PackFanWithTwins
14 years ago

There was actually one play where the RB was advancing, probably 3 or 4 yards past the line of scrimmage. AJ was setting up to make the tackle, waiting for the RB to slam into him. Then Bishop came out of nowhere and stopped the RB dead in his tracks, with Hawk standing there flat footed. I thought, "Yeah, there' Hawk for ya". Bishop played aggressive and that's exactly what's lacking from Hawk's game. All the skill and natural talen in the world won't get you very far in the NFL if you don't play aggressive.

"bozz_2006" wrote:



Difference in job assignment. Hawk is suppose to be cautious. He is the backside ILB, he is taught to play conservative because most of the time, he is the protection against a cutback. Sometimes it is easier to play with abandon than with control.
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FloridaPacker88
14 years ago



Difference in job assignment. Hawk is suppose to be cautious. He is the backside ILB, he is taught to play conservative because most of the time, he is the protection against a cutback. Sometimes it is easier to play with abandon than with control.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



Don't know how many times this has to be reiterated, people still want to hop on the Hawk basing train though I suppose :/
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Greg C.
14 years ago
I liked how Bishop played too. Barnett was having a quiet season. Bishop seemed to make more plays in one game than Barnett had in four.

I thought Charlie Peprah did okay too. He did get beat deep a couple times, but what can you expect when a safety is put into one-on-one coverage on a speed receiver running a deep route? I'd like to know how that was allowed to happen.

Of the three new starters in this game, Bryan Bulaga was the least impressive. He got beaten badly at least a few times, and he committed two false starts.
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Stevetarded
14 years ago
Bulaga did better against Orakpo than Clifton did and Bulaga only had 1 week to practice his position. Orakpo also rushed vs Bulaga more than he did against Clifton and was facing Bulaga from his natural position. IMO it's time to make Bulaga the full time starter whether it be RT or LT.
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nerdmann
14 years ago

Bulaga did better against Orakpo than Clifton did and Bulaga only had 1 week to practice his position. Orakpo also rushed vs Bulaga more than he did against Clifton and was facing Bulaga from his natural position. IMO it's time to make Bulaga the full time starter whether it be RT or LT.

"Stevetarded" wrote:





I can't believe how many times they tried to run behind Clifton. I mean, REALLY!?
Anyway, I agree. I definitely think Bishop would be more likely to replace Hawk than Barnett. Dunno about what kind of assignments they supposedly have, but damn. Time after time, Hawk gets dragged 5 extra yards for a first down. Just make it stop.
Still wouldn't mind seeing Bishop get some time at OLB, when Chillar gets back.
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PackFanWithTwins
14 years ago

Bulaga did better against Orakpo than Clifton did and Bulaga only had 1 week to practice his position. Orakpo also rushed vs Bulaga more than he did against Clifton and was facing Bulaga from his natural position. IMO it's time to make Bulaga the full time starter whether it be RT or LT.

"nerdmann" wrote:





I can't believe how many times they tried to run behind Clifton. I mean, REALLY!?
Anyway, I agree. I definitely think Bishop would be more likely to replace Hawk than Barnett. Dunno about what kind of assignments they supposedly have, but damn. Time after time, Hawk gets dragged 5 extra yards for a first down. Just make it stop.
Still wouldn't mind seeing Bishop get some time at OLB, when Chillar gets back.

"Stevetarded" wrote:




Well Hawk was trying to make a play. Holding the RB up for a strip.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
nerdmann
14 years ago

Bulaga did better against Orakpo than Clifton did and Bulaga only had 1 week to practice his position. Orakpo also rushed vs Bulaga more than he did against Clifton and was facing Bulaga from his natural position. IMO it's time to make Bulaga the full time starter whether it be RT or LT.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:





I can't believe how many times they tried to run behind Clifton. I mean, REALLY!?
Anyway, I agree. I definitely think Bishop would be more likely to replace Hawk than Barnett. Dunno about what kind of assignments they supposedly have, but damn. Time after time, Hawk gets dragged 5 extra yards for a first down. Just make it stop.
Still wouldn't mind seeing Bishop get some time at OLB, when Chillar gets back.

"nerdmann" wrote:




Well Hawk was trying to make a play. Holding the RB up for a strip.

"Stevetarded" wrote:





I prefer Bishop's method of forcing fumbles. Remember that 4th and 1 play against Apete?
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
PackFanWithTwins
14 years ago

Bulaga did better against Orakpo than Clifton did and Bulaga only had 1 week to practice his position. Orakpo also rushed vs Bulaga more than he did against Clifton and was facing Bulaga from his natural position. IMO it's time to make Bulaga the full time starter whether it be RT or LT.

"nerdmann" wrote:





I can't believe how many times they tried to run behind Clifton. I mean, REALLY!?
Anyway, I agree. I definitely think Bishop would be more likely to replace Hawk than Barnett. Dunno about what kind of assignments they supposedly have, but damn. Time after time, Hawk gets dragged 5 extra yards for a first down. Just make it stop.
Still wouldn't mind seeing Bishop get some time at OLB, when Chillar gets back.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:




Well Hawk was trying to make a play. Holding the RB up for a strip.

"nerdmann" wrote:





I prefer Bishop's method of forcing fumbles. Remember that 4th and 1 play against Apete?

"Stevetarded" wrote:

I think is is more a factor of what is asked. Front side aggresive backside cautious.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
go.pack.go.
14 years ago
No matter how good Hawk plays, some of you will not give him credit.
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Stevetarded
14 years ago
http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2010/10/12/re-focused-week-5-packers-at-redskins/ 

I know everyone doesn't trust the actual rankings of this site but I do believe that if a player is actually playing well they tend to get a high rating. That being said they wrote this about Bishop.

"Desmond Bishop (+7.7) who had his first start since 2008, and was given the highest score for an ILB in PFF history. On over 40% of the plays where he was blitzing, he was able to put pressure or worse on McNabb. He was also able to come up with six stops with a +3.7 run stop rating. In five passes thrown at him, he only allowed two completions, which is a big upgrade to the Packers linebackers last year."

I would say that is impressive for a guy who hasn't seen much playing time this year so far.
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