musccy
14 years ago
I understand and agree.

My comments are more based out of frustration that he seems to keep skirting away unscathed. I will forever be frustrated with the media fawning over him and his diva-like behavior, plus I"m convinced he was up to something with Jenn, I'm aware of some incidents with SNC student helpers at training camps in the '90s (thus have to wonder what else he's been up to)...yet he can still get by with not even a slap on the wrist.

I acknowledge it's sophomoric jealousy/frustration.
Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
I'm sure I dislike the man more than almost anyone on this board. Yet I also firmly believe in the proper application of law above all else, and in this case, regardless of what our own private feelings might be, I believe the right thing was done.

The propensity of the American public to lust for summary punishment and vigilante justice scares me. This mob mentality is antithetical to every principle this country was founded upon. I hope to God I'm never put on a witness stand, because I'll be condemned in the eyes of the public before I even get my day in court.

Therefore, it encourages me when I see people in positions of authority showing restraint in cases like this. As famed English jurist James Blackstone wrote in his Commentaries on the Laws of England (1760s): "[It is] better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."
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DakotaT
14 years ago

The propensity of the American public to lust for summary punishment and vigilante justice scares me. This mob mentality is antithetical to every principle this country was founded upon. I hope to God I'm never put on a witness stand, because I'll be condemned in the eyes of the public before I even get my day in court.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



The problem with these principles you is that they are corrupted by money. There are two justice systems in this country, one for the wealthy and one for the poor. In a ridiculus case like Cock-n-Crocs, the only place it should be tried is in that of public opinion. The judicial system you speak of NON, I could really give a rats ass about. It has as much credibility as our Congress, which shows you the state in which our society resides. Within this Century, there will be a revolution, so get your fortress set up.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
Well, in this particular case the state of the justice system (and thus my rant above) is irrelevant, since this was a case settled in-house by a private entity.

I agree that a revolution is coming, and I think it's several decades overdue. I've often said that if or when Montana, Wyoming, or New Hampshire secede, I'll grab my rifle and head out there.
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DakotaT
14 years ago

Well, in this particular case the state of the justice system (and thus my rant above) is irrelevant, since this was a case settled in-house by a private entity.

I agree that a revolution is coming, and I think it's several decades overdue. I've often said that if or when Montana, Wyoming, or New Hampshire secede, I'll grab my rifle and head out there.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Come to North Dakota, we have all the bombs. Too many sheep in Wyoming and Montana, unless your into that.
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Wade
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14 years ago

Well, in this particular case the state of the justice system (and thus my rant above) is irrelevant, since this was a case settled in-house by a private entity.

I agree that a revolution is coming, and I think it's several decades overdue. I've often said that if or when Montana, Wyoming, or New Hampshire secede, I'll grab my rifle and head out there.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Isn't there a group in New Hampshire already doing this...?
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
Wade
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14 years ago
yep...here you go....
Free State Project 
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
DakotaT
14 years ago

Well, in this particular case the state of the justice system (and thus my rant above) is irrelevant, since this was a case settled in-house by a private entity.

I agree that a revolution is coming, and I think it's several decades overdue. I've often said that if or when Montana, Wyoming, or New Hampshire secede, I'll grab my rifle and head out there.

"Wade" wrote:



Isn't there a group in New Hampshire already doing this...?

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



No history lesson today? Not like I'd read it anyway, but everyone else likes a lecture. 🙂
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Wade
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14 years ago
(wondering why none of these people ever want to go to a place without snow.)
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago

I think this is my take on the Favre/Sterger story: In the end, Brett Favre stonewalled and got penalized by the league, and Jenn Sterger got betrayed by an acquaintance who turned incriminating photos, allegedly of Favre, over to Deadspin. She was certain the league had enough evidence to suspend Favre for sending her the photos, but the same forensic crew that investigated Favre for her also investigated the case for the league -- Charlie Casserly reported that for CBS Sunday, and he's right -- and the crew couldn't say with 100 percent certainty that the pictures were of Favre and sent by Favre.

At the end, the league didn't buy that Sterger was sexually harassed by Favre, in part because the league's investigation of the case didn't find a trail of Sterger complaining about Favre.

I'm sure we all have our opinions of what Favre did, and how much exactly the league could prove in the case, but what the league could prove was a couple of awkward wooing-type phone calls from Favre to Sterger, and in the absence of more solid documentation that Favre harassed her, the league felt it couldn't go further.

My problem is the size of the fine. If Goodell felt Favre either lied or obstructed the investigation, it's a wrist-slap to have Favre pay one third of one percent of his salary as the sanction.


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