play2win
13 years ago

I apologize if it came off wrong, but my blindly comment is just moving up in the draft to X spot to have better pickings. Example.. move to 15 to ensure that we can pick from Player A,B and C.

Although at the time I was in the belief that we paid too high of a price to leap up and grab Matthews, meaning pick A and B for our package of picks to move up x number of slots.. that is the type of pounce I would advocate at this point. And in hindsight of the player Matthews as become at the pro level.. of course my initial reaction to the deal was moot and incorrect. One of millions of times I have been incorrect in life and sports.. and will not be the last, lol.

That is what I mean, let the board come to you.. if there is clearly one player you value that much and he can be obtained without selling out to get him.. go for it. Otherwise.. play the odds and pick value at each pick and let the chips fall.



Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



Man, that 2009 draft where we traded up and snapped CM3 off the board, along with Raji, that was a thing of beauty. Thinking we could use another one of those this year.
Stevetarded
13 years ago

Man, that 2009 draft where we traded up and snapped CM3 off the board, along with Raji, that was a thing of beauty. Thinking we could use another one of those this year.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



The difference is we had top 10 picks in each round that year. Being at the tail end this year we don't really have the juice to make moves like that. GB actually only moved up 15 spots to get Clay at 26 while this year they would have to move up 29 spots just to get to 32
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Wade
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13 years ago
McClellin is the big reason I'd like to see the Packers trade down to early 2nd round (c. 35).

I think he might be a bit of a stretch at 28, but IMO so are Reyes, Mercilius (sp?), Branch, Hightower, Curry, and the others I've heard mentioned at 28. Not John Michels- or Mike Mamula-type stretches, but stretches in the sense that they are more #35-38 talent than #25-28 talent. To my mind, this draft is made for a TT-type trade down at #28.

I expect McClellin to be long gone by the time the packers' scheduled 2nd rounder rolls around, and I wouldn't be upset if they decide to take him as early as 28, but if he's the guy targeted by TT, IMO dropping down a few spots wouldn't be a big risk.

(Assuming that Ted Thompson thinks there's a trade partner out there...which may not be the case.

I'd also be okay with stretching for Branch at 28. I'd rather have McClellin, though.
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play2win
13 years ago
Hey Steve,

We gave up a R2 and two R3s to jump back into the #26. We may be able to do same with a player and picks for a team desperate for WRs. But, yeah, it sure won't be easy. Thankfully, there are a lot of teams rebuilding that could use volume of picks, the kind of volume we could offer.

Wade, I really like that McClellin kid, and I'm trying my damnedest to keep from talking about him too much. I think his value is a little higher, but who knows? Some have him going as the #1 3-4 LB. Others don't. Guess I'd be pretty happy adding any of Upshaw, Hightower, Mercillus, Jones, Perry, Branch or McClellin. Would love to add a DE/DT and a NT in there too.
Stevetarded
13 years ago

Hey Steve,

We gave up a R2 and two R3s to jump back into the #26. We may be able to do same with a player and picks for a team desperate for WRs. But, yeah, it sure won't be easy. Thankfully, there are a lot of teams rebuilding that could use volume of picks, the kind of volume we could offer.

Wade, I really like that McClellin kid, and I'm trying my damnedest to keep from talking about him too much. I think his value is a little higher, but who knows? Some have him going as the #1 3-4 LB. Others don't. Guess I'd be pretty happy adding any of Upshaw, Hightower, Mercillus, Jones, Perry, Branch or McClellin. Would love to add a DE/DT and a NT in there too.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Yeah the 9th pick in rounds 2 and 3 and the 19th pick of round 3 to move up 15 spots. Were talking about moving up 29 spots just to get to 32 and don't have a single pick as high as any of those three in each round to use. It isn't as simple as just what round the picks are in. Player trades without also involving significant picks don't really happen on draft day that I know of. It's going to most likely cost future picks to do anything like that, nobody wants GBs throwaway players that much.

It's more likely that any trading up will involve rounds 3-5ish similar to the Morgan Burnett trade (even though Ted looked completely depressed talking about giving up that precious 4th round pick).
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
The Packers traded picks 2–41, 3–73 and 3–83 to the New England Patriots for picks 1–26 and 5–162.
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
When? This year or 2009?
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dhazer
13 years ago

Hey Steve,

We gave up a R2 and two R3s to jump back into the #26. We may be able to do same with a player and picks for a team desperate for WRs. But, yeah, it sure won't be easy. Thankfully, there are a lot of teams rebuilding that could use volume of picks, the kind of volume we could offer.

Wade, I really like that McClellin kid, and I'm trying my damnedest to keep from talking about him too much. I think his value is a little higher, but who knows? Some have him going as the #1 3-4 LB. Others don't. Guess I'd be pretty happy adding any of Upshaw, Hightower, Mercillus, Jones, Perry, Branch or McClellin. Would love to add a DE/DT and a NT in there too.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



I enjoy reading your posts but c'mon man get off the kick of trading our wrs, who would you think is trade bait? Jones is already proven no one will give much if anything for him, so now you have Driver and he is aged so thats out. Jennings maybe with his contract coming up but I don't see that happening. Remember every year a star wr shows up, it all comes down to how good the qb is that year.




Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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dfosterf
13 years ago
The Green Bay Packers are the favorite to win the Super Bowl this year. Patriots are the 2nd.

Vegas. Currently.

FYI to all.


Arizona Cardinals

50/1



Atlanta Falcons

25/1



Baltimore Ravens

16/1



Buffalo Bills

60/1



Carolina Panthers

35/1



Chicago Bears

20/1



Cincinnati Bengals

40/1



Cleveland Browns

150/1



Dallas Cowboys

22/1



Denver Broncos

12/1



Detroit Lions

25/1



Green Bay Packers

13/2



Houston Texans

12/1



Indianapolis Colts

100/1



Jacksonville Jaguars

100/1



Kansas City Chiefs

50/1



Miami Dolphins

50/1



Minnesota Vikings

100/1



New England Patriots

8/1



New Orleans Saints

14/1



New York Giants

16/1



New York Jets

25/1



Oakland Raiders

60/1



Philadelphia Eagles

14/1



Pittsburgh Steelers

20/1



San Diego Chargers

22/1



San Francisco 49ers

10/1



Seattle Seahawks

40/1



St. Louis Rams

75/1



Tampa Bay Buccaneers

75/1



Tennessee Titans

50/1



Washington Redskins

50/1
dhazer
13 years ago

The Green Bay Packers are the favorite to win the Super Bowl this year. Patriots are the 2nd.

Vegas. Currently.

FYI to all.


Arizona Cardinals

50/1



Atlanta Falcons

25/1



Baltimore Ravens

16/1



Buffalo Bills

60/1



Carolina Panthers

35/1



Chicago Bears

20/1



Cincinnati Bengals

40/1



Cleveland Browns

150/1



Dallas Cowboys

22/1



Denver Broncos

12/1



Detroit Lions

25/1



Green Bay Packers

13/2



Houston Texans

12/1



Indianapolis Colts

100/1



Jacksonville Jaguars

100/1



Kansas City Chiefs

50/1



Miami Dolphins

50/1



Minnesota Vikings

100/1



New England Patriots

8/1



New Orleans Saints

14/1



New York Giants

16/1



New York Jets

25/1



Oakland Raiders

60/1



Philadelphia Eagles

14/1



Pittsburgh Steelers

20/1



San Diego Chargers

22/1



San Francisco 49ers

10/1



Seattle Seahawks

40/1



St. Louis Rams

75/1



Tampa Bay Buccaneers

75/1



Tennessee Titans

50/1



Washington Redskins

50/1

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



Out of curiosity when was the last time a team favored to win at the beginning of the season actually won? Serious question
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
reed
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