nerdmann
11 years ago
I thought the Falcons dropped a couple passes on purpose on that final drive. Suspected they were playing for a high draft pick.

It did seem the D showed up today, to some degree.

Bush made some plays, although the one on Gonzales might have been a drop on purpose.

I thought Richardson looked better than Jennings.

Didn't seem like Clay did much, but I think he was double teamed much of the day, enabling Perry and Neal to get home, which they both did.
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beast
11 years ago

I thought the Falcons dropped a couple passes on purpose on that final drive. Suspected they were playing for a high draft pick.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



The coaches, scouts, owner, etc... might perfer a higher pick to winning the game, but I doubt the players would drop them on purpose knowing they could be the hero of this game and get their teammates, fans and coaches behind them and because higher picks mean higher chances of losing their job to someone else.


I thought Richardson looked better than Jennings.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I thought the defense looked much better with Richardson in there, he might become the starter for the rest of the season.


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DakotaT
11 years ago

I thought the Falcons dropped a couple passes on purpose on that final drive. Suspected they were playing for a high draft pick.

It did seem the D showed up today, to some degree.

Bush made some plays, although the one on Gonzales might have been a drop on purpose.

I thought Richardson looked better than Jennings.

Didn't seem like Clay did much, but I think he was double teamed much of the day, enabling Perry and Neal to get home, which they both did.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Does Atlanta even have their #1 pick this year. I thought they made a Herschel Walker trade to get Julio Jones.
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11 years ago

Does Atlanta even have their #1 pick this year. I thought they made a Herschel Walker trade to get Julio Jones.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



all done they gave up their 27th, 59th, and 124th picks from the 2011 draft, and their first and fourth round picks from the 2012 draft.
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sschind
11 years ago

I thought for a bunch of coach doubting, scheme blasting quitters they played pretty hard today.

Or was it just me thinking I saw something that really wasn't what was going on.

Oh well, I think I'll leave the thinking something is going on that isn't really going on for the experts in that area.

Originally Posted by: warhawk 



Nah, they quit. They have given up. They are revolting. It's just that Atlanta wanted to lose more than the Packers did. Otherwise we wouldn't have had a chance in hell of winning.

sschind
11 years ago

The coaches, scouts, owner, etc... might perfer a higher pick to winning the game, but I doubt the players would drop them on purpose knowing they could be the hero of this game and get their teammates, fans and coaches behind them and because higher picks mean higher chances of losing their job to someone else.




I thought the defense looked much better with Richardson in there, he might become the starter for the rest of the season.

Originally Posted by: beast 



I doubt that many coaches, scouts and owners would prefer the loss either. Some fans who have it in their heads that losing is better than winning think that they need the high draft pick to succeed so they think everyone is of the same mindset.

I wonder what these fans would want in the following situation. The Packers are 0-15 and they are playing another 0-15 team in week 17. The loser gets the higher draft pick. Do they still root for the loss?

DakotaT
11 years ago

I doubt that many coaches, scouts and owners would prefer the loss either. Some fans who have it in their heads that losing is better than winning think that they need the high draft pick to succeed so they think everyone is of the same mindset.

I wonder what these fans would want in the following situation. The Packers are 0-15 and they are playing another 0-15 team in week 17. The loser gets the higher draft pick. Do they still root for the loss?

Originally Posted by: sschind 



Well I'm a Bucks fan too and they already in full on tank mode and they haven't even played 20 games yet. If it yields them one of the three studs coming out of college this year, hell yeah I'm perfectly fine with a shitstain season. When you need offensive line help, the higher your pick in each round, the better. It's called a sacrifice for a greater good, but most people don't have an understanding of this concept.
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DoddPower
11 years ago

Well I'm a Bucks fan too and they already in full on tank mode and they haven't even played 20 games yet. If it yields them one of the three studs coming out of college this year, hell yeah I'm perfectly fine with a shitstain season. When you need offensive line help, the higher your pick in each round, the better. It's called a sacrifice for a greater good, but most people don't have an understanding of this concept.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



It's hard for me to have much satisfaction if "my" team doesn't win the Super Bowl. "Moral victories" don't do a whole lot for me, especially when a team has an elite QB. If losing a few more games allows a team to retool, address weaknesses, and win a Super Bowl in the next season or two, than I certainly would be OK with it. Of course, there's no guarantee that will happen. But generally, I think it's a fairly safe bet that drafting in the top 10 gives a team a better chance of obtaining a franchise changing player than drafting in the late 20's. Obviously nothing is ever guaranteed, though.

Fortunately for the Packers, they are still in a good position for this season, so they don't have to even think about any of this. Players and coaches really shouldn't either, because they have a job to do. I don't see any problem with the thoughts crossing the fans minds, though. As I've said several times, making it to the playoffs and getting embarrassed in the wildcard or divisional round doesn't make me feel any better than only winning a few games and getting a high draft pick. That, of course, is predicated on the assumption that with a healthy Aaron Rodgers and weaknesses addressed, that the Packers will easily be a contender again next season.
steveishere
11 years ago

Well I'm a Bucks fan too and they already in full on tank mode and they haven't even played 20 games yet. If it yields them one of the three studs coming out of college this year, hell yeah I'm perfectly fine with a shitstain season. When you need offensive line help, the higher your pick in each round, the better. It's called a sacrifice for a greater good, but most people don't have an understanding of this concept.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I bet if you were one of the coaches and it was your ass on the hot seat you wouldn't be so willing to sacrifice for the greater good lol. The idea of teams purposely taking in the NFL is just completely stupid. These guys aren't going to tank for the good of a team that's going to fire their ass after it's over, especially for the players.
sschind
11 years ago

Well I'm a Bucks fan too and they already in full on tank mode and they haven't even played 20 games yet. If it yields them one of the three studs coming out of college this year, hell yeah I'm perfectly fine with a shitstain season. When you need offensive line help, the higher your pick in each round, the better. It's called a sacrifice for a greater good, but most people don't have an understanding of this concept.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I understand the concept I just don't agree with it. You do and that's fine. You root for the Packers in your way I'll root for them in mine. I'd rather see an extra win or two than a higher draft pick but that's just me.

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