RaiderPride
16 years ago
Forget for a moment who may be hired to coach the "D" Forget who might be D.C. who he will bring in, and what scheme they will run.

I would like to get the forums view on the move it self. The whole house cleaning thing. You have to admit, no one really expected the whole house to be torn down and re built. (I Know Moss is still here, but I think he is gone anyway.)

Personally I think it is gutsy. There is no doubt that if this does not work, Mike M. is putting his head coaching neck in the noose.

I am a firm believer in hiring slow, and firing fast in business. It is proven, it works, and most people do not realize the financial cost to a company with a bad hire. In football that cost is wins, and wins have value just like sales do in business.

First think I thought of it was done to make the DC job more attractive to hire the best candidate. The chance to bring in all his own people, and run it his way. Having the ability to have input and bring in his own people might entice one of the head coaching candidates, or the BEST CANDIDATE.

Like it or not... I think the move shows direction, and commitment to change. I like the fact that it sends a message to the players that the team is willing to clean house and expects accountability from the top down.

Your thoughts?
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PackFanWithTwins
16 years ago
IMO, I think the move is right, and to me shows that Moss will not be the DC. Unless there has already been talk with him and he said he doesn't want any of the assistants.

That is why I think the replacement would come from outside the organization.
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shield4life
16 years ago
Yes it is a risk, I agree. The move was made so most probably we could start a new scheme and a complete new look. Now will it work no guarantee's, but better then having Sanders running the show 🙂. I feel like Mike Nolan and his staff is heading to GB.
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Pack93z
16 years ago
Is it gutsy or does it speak of a little heat being felt?

Personally, I like the move.. in three years the defensive performances have been roller coastish and lacking of in game flexibility to adjust to what the offenses were doing.. time and time again.. if an offense was able to do something successfully in the first quarter of a game.. they had success doing the exact same thing late in the game.. didn't play to the game at hand.. just to the scheme moreso.

I understand the gutting of the staff to allow a new DC to hire his people into place.. but leaving Moss on the roster then?

It shall be interesting to see how this shakes out.. hopefully soon if the St Louis search doesn't drag out to long.
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IronMan
16 years ago



Like it or not... I think the move shows direction, and commitment to change. I like the fact that it sends a message to the players that the team is willing to clean house and expects accountability from the top down.

Your thoughts?

"RaiderPride" wrote:



Couldn't agree more. I didn't think MM had it in him. I couldn't have been more wrong!

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gbpfan
16 years ago
I think it speaks volume,that M.M. made these moves just hope,who ever is d.c. comes in with a good scheme,and the players adapt .
DakotaT
16 years ago
I think everyone is overreacting. The new DC will and should be allowed to choose HIS own coaches. Maybe a few of these guys will be hired back, but let's wait and see who gets the top job first.
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warhawk
16 years ago
I brought up in another thread a little bit of a twist to this.

If you remember McCarthy retainted Sanders after Bates balked. Mac wanted Bates but he was too pissed he didn't get HC to stick around so MM elevated Sanders to keep the defense intact that Bates used.

They felt this important because there was Bates and before him Slowick and before him Donetell so they didn't want to change the "D" around again.

Now I think under the circumstances at the time this may have been in the best interest of the team but I wonder if he had his druthers would McCarthy have gone this route to begin with? I don't know.

Which leads me to another topic. We may not have had to clean up this mess if Sherman had not used Donetell as a scape goat for the 4th and 26th debacle against Philly. The Packers really screwed up letting him get away.

Other than '07 our "D" has never played at the level he had them at.
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16 years ago
Agreed, no coach should get fired for one player out of position on one play. It was absurd. I think I wanted the OC gone that year and they fired the DC. I couldn't believe it.
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Cheesey
16 years ago
Ironman......thats SICK!!! (As in FUNNY sick!!!)LOLOLOL!!!

Anyways......i like the moves.
All the people that were complaining, saying that MM wouldn't do anything have to be surprised now. And i think the moves were do. Lets face it, the D stunk this year. For every big play they made, they would make a bad one.
Hopefully this will work and get our D where it SHOULD be.
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