Smokey
9 years ago

The NFL desperately wants this story to go away.

Originally Posted by: greengold 



As does Zero2Cool, I wonder why ?

I recommend reading post 16, this thread !

You can fool All the people some of the time, and Some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool All of the people All of the time !


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9 years ago
I acknowledge that it's conceivable that any one of the claims against the Pats is blown out of proportion.

With headsets, ironically enough, PFT reported the Jets had this issue IN PITTSBURGH during the playoffs a few years ago. They also reported this is a common occurrence at Joe Robbie or whatever the hell the Dolphins' stadium is now. I acknowledge it's possible to happen elsewhere. With that said, it's curious timing, coming off deflategate, and me reading about this for months, then it happens the first game.

Any of the situations, aside from the signal spying, I could see as being explained away. It's that we hear these things so often - and I don't buy the whole "but they're good" argument. Many teams have been good, not nearly as many complaints as the Pats. If you have some time, read through this SI article Pats history  that outlines the sum of so many small parts, including the Packers being suspicious of them filming their pre game.

I'm not even necessarily saying this negates their success. They've won because they're disciplined, work hard, and have key leaders at key spots in the organization. With that said, I no longer doubt that they push the boundaries, and as the SI article says, walk a mile to gain an inch.
gbguy20
9 years ago

As does Zero2Cool, I wonder why ?

I recommend reading post 16, this thread !

You can fool All the people some of the time, and Some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool All of the people All of the time !


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Originally Posted by: Smokey 



Luckily when they're already a fool you don't need to bother with any of that.

I acknowledge that it's conceivable that any one of the claims against the Pats is blown out of proportion.

With headsets, ironically enough, PFT reported the Jets had this issue IN PITTSBURGH during the playoffs a few years ago. They also reported this is a common occurrence at Joe Robbie or whatever the hell the Dolphins' stadium is now. I acknowledge it's possible to happen elsewhere. With that said, it's curious timing, coming off deflategate, and me reading about this for months, then it happens the first game.

Any of the situations, aside from the signal spying, I could see as being explained away. It's that we hear these things so often - and I don't buy the whole "but they're good" argument. Many teams have been good, not nearly as many complaints as the Pats. If you have some time, read through this SI article Pats history  that outlines the sum of so many small parts, including the Packers being suspicious of them filming their pre game.

I'm not even necessarily saying this negates their success. They've won because they're disciplined, work hard, and have key leaders at key spots in the organization. With that said, I no longer doubt that they push the boundaries, and as the SI article says, walk a mile to gain an inch.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



It was a problem in the preseason, why bother with it then?
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Cheesey
9 years ago
Musccy said "People would search for flaws in Ghandi if he was winning too many games."
But you can bet Ghandi was a man of character and would never over inflate footballs or mess with headsets.

The reason the Patriots get scrutinized so much is because they have a HISTORY of ignoring rules. They seem to think rules don't apply to them, because they are just so darn special.

They will use/abuse anything they can to gain an edge. If it's within the rules, fine, if not, I have NO respect for them.

But what has now been proven in the NFL, Goodell has NO control and anything goes. So might as well throw out the rule book. It serves no purpose.
It's like the B.S. gun control laws.......they ONLY effect those that follow the laws, not the criminals.

Thus ends my sermon for ther day.🤣
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago
Didn't feel like having another thread about Patriots so stuffing this here. You heard the accusations about Patriots bugging the visitor locker room right? Get this ...

NFL swept Jets locker room for bugs before Sunday’s game
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Patriots have become concerned that a team eventually will plant bugs on its own and claim that the Patriots put them there. This has prompted the Patriots to ask the league to certify before each game that the visiting locker room is clean before an opposing team enters. Per the source, the NFL has declined to do this.



And Commissioner is worried about the integrity of the game, but refuses to equality and fairness here?
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