Zero2Cool
15 years ago

I think it was a non-catch. The Ref messed up with the replay announcement, but I don't think he got it. Watching the replay, the left foot is the first for possession, and as the 2nd foot is coming down, the defender knocked the ball lose. I think they got it right on the field. Close though.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:




So the 2nd foot and defender were simultaneous?
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago

If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball after he touches the ground, whether in the field of play, or in the end zone.

"IronMan" wrote:





This is really simple. I am dumbfounded why so many don't get it.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



I'm dumbfounded on how anyone can think that play posted is close to the Jennings 'non' TD. I remembered it like this ... Jennings, one foot, two foot, around the time the third foot (he has THREE FEET!) touches down, the defender slaps the ball out while out of bounds and drags him down.

"IronMan" wrote:


Yep, thats what happened. And thats an incomplete pass.



So even though the rule states for Possession and Touchdown that two feet while possession established, the ball can be knocked out while out of bounds and nullify the catch?

Bleh, this is why I say there are too many damn rules in the NFL. I don't think it's so much the referees as it is the enormous amount of rules.

This isn't that simple as some make it out to be. I mean, read the rules. By the definitions provided, it makes it appear this falls into a gray area.
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PackFanWithTwins
15 years ago

I think it was a non-catch. The Ref messed up with the replay announcement, but I don't think he got it. Watching the replay, the left foot is the first for possession, and as the 2nd foot is coming down, the defender knocked the ball lose. I think they got it right on the field. Close though.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:




So the 2nd foot and defender were simultaneous?

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



This is a screen clip. As close as I can get on the play. The ball is coming out and the right (2nd foot) is not yet down. It is really close, and I would have called it not enough to overturn the call on the field.

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15 years ago

I think it was a non-catch. The Ref messed up with the replay announcement, but I don't think he got it. Watching the replay, the left foot is the first for possession, and as the 2nd foot is coming down, the defender knocked the ball lose. I think they got it right on the field. Close though.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:




So the 2nd foot and defender were simultaneous?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



This is a screen clip. As close as I can get on the play. The ball is coming out and the right (2nd foot) is not yet down. It is really close, and I would have called it not enough to overturn the call on the field.

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"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:

Are you sure thats not the third foot?
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buckeyepackfan
15 years ago

I think it was a non-catch. The Ref messed up with the replay announcement, but I don't think he got it. Watching the replay, the left foot is the first for possession, and as the 2nd foot is coming down, the defender knocked the ball lose. I think they got it right on the field. Close though.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:




So the 2nd foot and defender were simultaneous?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



This is a screen clip. As close as I can get on the play. The ball is coming out and the right (2nd foot) is not yet down. It is really close, and I would have called it not enough to overturn the call on the field.

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"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



Looking at that picture, I will agree that there was a definate horse collar tackle that wwas missed during the Touchdown Catch!!! :icon_smile:
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PackFanWithTwins
15 years ago

I think it was a non-catch. The Ref messed up with the replay announcement, but I don't think he got it. Watching the replay, the left foot is the first for possession, and as the 2nd foot is coming down, the defender knocked the ball lose. I think they got it right on the field. Close though.

"cheeseheads123" wrote:




So the 2nd foot and defender were simultaneous?

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



This is a screen clip. As close as I can get on the play. The ball is coming out and the right (2nd foot) is not yet down. It is really close, and I would have called it not enough to overturn the call on the field.

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"Zero2Cool" wrote:

Are you sure thats not the third foot?

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



IMO he was still putting the ball away when the right first came down, so the first possession foot was the left and this was almost the 2nd.

Also why IMO it is to close to overturn. Only if the Ref hadn't made that stupid going to the ground comment.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
15 years ago
You can have possession of the ball in just your hands, if you aren't bobbling it or it's moving in your grasp. It doesn't have to be tucked away. That's the 3rd step, and the left toe is about to drag as well.
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PackFanWithTwins
15 years ago

Looking at that picture, I will agree that there was a definate horse collar tackle that wwas missed during the Touchdown Catch!!! :icon_smile:

"buckeyepackfan" wrote:



True, I was worried after the 2nd showing live. I saw him roll over his foot and thought he might have been really hurt, then seeing him hobble off.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
PackFanWithTwins
15 years ago

You can have possession of the ball in just your hands, if you aren't bobbling it or it's moving in your grasp. It doesn't have to be tucked away. That's the 3rd step, and the left toe is about to drag as well.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



The ball was moving until it got into his body though.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
IronMan
15 years ago



Also why IMO it is to close to overturn. Only if the Ref hadn't made that stupid going to the ground comment.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:


Why is it stupid? He was going to the ground. That is the rule.
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