longtimefan
16 years ago

So, ah, what's the name of your source? Because that's some powerful stuff you've been smoking/drinking/snorting/injecting

"lisa329" wrote:



I'm a friend of a former Starbucks employee that now cleans the street around Lambeau but this is not from him!
I had this idea of not playing to win this year from TT's moves specially for his non-moves.

When I read from MM that we are using a reduced playbook this year it made sense because we can't go very far with the run-run-pass approach and the 4 or 5 magnificent plays we have :)

"longtimefan" wrote:



where did he say that with AR?
unless this is new stuff

.he said it was all media hype when asked about changing the play book to suit AR during the suumer

"longtimefan" wrote:



luigis..........

Have an asnwer for Zero and I?

"luigis" wrote:



http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2008/09/29/1/ 

MM said "We haven't really operated on a very high volume all year, so that's something coming out of the offseason" in his press conference on MOnday. The actual quote is at the bottom of the transcript

"bigfog" wrote:



does that mean play book is cut in half? I am guessing since he was answering a question about Flynn he was gearing the answer to only Flynn...

I know he said in a p/c the play book has not changed and it is/was the same as what Brett had..and he was tired of the MEDIA bringing it up, and I think his words were "that did not come form me or any of my cvoaches, that came from the media" ** about the play book was adjusted to suit AR ***

I can not find it, but trust me when I do i will post what he said
lisa329
16 years ago
I think Trippster posted the article that you're talking about LT where MM said that. I was just posting the article that I believed the poster was referring to where he thought MM said the playbook was pared down. Not trying to start anything.
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longtimefan
16 years ago

I think Trippster posted the article that you're talking about LT where MM said that. I was just posting the article that I believed the poster was referring to where he thought MM said the playbook was pared down. Not trying to start anything.

"lisa329" wrote:



I know you arent Lisa ;)

I just know for a fact MM said the playbook was not scaled back, cut in half, adjusted to suit AR..I heard it in a p/c saw it in the transcript and posted it somewhere..

Now to see this quote baffles me..I am not sure what he is really saying..

I still think he was referring to Flynn
luigis
16 years ago
If it helps you clear the confusion the plays we have deployed in our first 3 games clearly show we are operating on a low volume playbook.

Luigi


I think Trippster posted the article that you're talking about LT where MM said that. I was just posting the article that I believed the poster was referring to where he thought MM said the playbook was pared down. Not trying to start anything.

"longtimefan" wrote:



I know you arent Lisa ;)

I just know for a fact MM said the playbook was not scaled back, cut in half, adjusted to suit AR..I heard it in a p/c saw it in the transcript and posted it somewhere..

Now to see this quote baffles me..I am not sure what he is really saying..

I still think he was referring to Flynn

"lisa329" wrote:

Luis
ILikeThePackers39
16 years ago

If it helps you clear the confusion the plays we have deployed in our first 3 games clearly show we are operating on a low volume playbook.

Luigi

"luigis" wrote:



How do you come to this conclusion? I'm not saying the playbook hasn't been adjusted, but I'd say that has more to do with missing WRs than it does Aaron. I recall the same as LT, that McCarthy said point blank he hadn't pared anything down for Aaron.
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longtimefan
16 years ago

If it helps you clear the confusion the plays we have deployed in our first 3 games clearly show we are operating on a low volume playbook.

Luigi


I think Trippster posted the article that you're talking about LT where MM said that. I was just posting the article that I believed the poster was referring to where he thought MM said the playbook was pared down. Not trying to start anything.

"luigis" wrote:



I know you arent Lisa ;)

I just know for a fact MM said the playbook was not scaled back, cut in half, adjusted to suit AR..I heard it in a p/c saw it in the transcript and posted it somewhere..

Now to see this quote baffles me..I am not sure what he is really saying..

I still think he was referring to Flynn

"longtimefan" wrote:

"lisa329" wrote:




Now your just ADDING more confusion...

You say the 1st 3 games show us CLEARLY the playbook is low, cuz to me and I think lot of others it isnt to clear

Show us then
bozz_2006
16 years ago
MM Monday presser after the loss to Tampa

(How much smaller does the playbook get with Flynn?)
We haven't really operated on a very high volume all year, so that's something coming out of the offseason. I think it's important as a coaching staff to challenge yourself. I've dealt with very high-volume offensive game plans in the past. Over the long haul, I think it creates more opportunity for mental errors. I don't think we have a volume issue as far as the size of our playbook for any of the quarterbacks to run. The percentage of that, the week will probably answer that question better.

link to press conference transcript 
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longtimefan
16 years ago

MM Monday presser after the loss to Tampa

(How much smaller does the playbook get with Flynn?)
We haven't really operated on a very high volume all year, so that's something coming out of the offseason. I think it's important as a coaching staff to challenge yourself. I've dealt with very high-volume offensive game plans in the past. Over the long haul, I think it creates more opportunity for mental errors. I don't think we have a volume issue as far as the size of our playbook for any of the quarterbacks to run. The percentage of that, the week will probably answer that question better.

link to press conference transcript 

"bozz_2006" wrote:



thanks but that was posted numerous times now..

And as I have said....

WTF does it mean?

Is he refering to Flynn?

Or is he out and out lying to us? Cuz he did say the play book isnt any different then what Brett ran and he hasnt changed it at all to suit AR

is it just how many plays they put in for THAT PARTICULAR week?? cuz I think every coach does that...
bozz_2006
16 years ago
no need to get snippy. I didn't read the thread. I saw your question. I answered your question, or at least I thought I did. Personally, I feel like the answer is right there, and you just don't like it. The playcalling has been conservative, for whatever reason. Example: we haven't run the Big 5. not because Aaron can't handle it, but because we haven't had 5 healthy receivers. So, we haven't been able to open up the playbook.
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TheEngineer
16 years ago



Sorry, Amigo, but just because someone has a title, doesn't mean they're the expert. Case in point, Matt Millen. Case in point, Al Davis.

I think there are at least half a dozen people here who could have drafted and traded better than those two in the past few years.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Funny you should mention Matt Millen and then the 2nd statement, because that's exactly Millen's situation - someone who's not a proper GM, doesn't have a management background thinking he can outdraft and out manage the rest of the GMs in the NFL.

Maybe you'll get lucky here and there, but you'll never convince me, or [strike]any[/strike] the majority of team owners from hiring someone who has no experience or background to GM a team, because they see clearly in hindsight.

You are free to criticise, but don't pretend that people on the street could do a better job. You are doing a disservice for all the behind-the-scenes hard work that Ted Thompson and MM go through and all the long hours, probably every day to try and keep the Packers as an elite team without paying through the nose.
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