A lot of teams are running some form of the ZBS. Minnesota does some things with it. Weight doesn't equal strength. Take Steven Hutchinson for example. 6-5 310 or more. Could he play the ZBS? Absolutely because he's got it all. Strength, technique, and quickness.

The Packers have gotten bigger, but are they stronger? Probably not. Barbre is more technique than strength IMO. Guys throw him around way to easy. Colledge too. They got bigger guys inside to get bigger bodies on bodies, but in reality, those guys don't have the power that I think most people are used to seeing.

To be fair, I do believe the interior line of College/Spitz/Sitton could be decent. I think it's the tackles that are bringing down the line.

"porky88" wrote:

Why is Campen still employed with the Packers? Giving up 5 sacks to a Lions team that had to use offensive linemen on the defensive line? What did they work on during the bye week?

"IronMan" wrote:

And ban anyone who says he SHOULDN'T be fired.

"IronMan" wrote:

If you're painting with a log of shit, don't expect it to look like a masterpiece.

Campen is working with what he has. The question of firing Campen should include all of the following considerations before rash decisions are made:

a) Can we find someone who can perform better than Campen? In the short term? In the long term? At what price?

b) Can a new coach learn our philosophy, or have the authority to introduce a new philosophy, to our offensive line?

c) Are the players the reason for the mistakes or the fact that the coaching is subpar? Could we replace players instead of replace coaches?

"TheEngineer" wrote:

"Cheesey" wrote:

I agree. Maybe not now (unless they can get Jags in, like, yesterday), but he's got to go.

And if they don't bring some FA tackles in during the bye, you'll be able to find me over with DHazer calling for Thompson's head. This is full-on unacceptable.

That was just embarrassing. And yeah, Aaron held the ball too long in some instances - I'll always take a sack over a pick, and if anyone thinks getting beat to shit game after game doesn't take a toll, you're nuts. This line is now affecting our QB's game. So wrong.

And I'll add that I sincerely hope that Brandon Jackson is healthy after the bye - the OL is utter crap, but Grant's running like a little girl out there.

"ILikeThePackers39" wrote:

Ted Thompson found a serviceable player in Grant, I'm sure he could pull a serviceable LT or swing tackle out of his posterior.

"nerdmann" wrote: