Illegal Immigrant Costume causes mass concern· Page 4

zombieslayer
Registered

15 years ago

In my opinion, the time has come for citizens of other nations to take responsibility for the crappy conditions in their countries. If their countries are so unbearable that they have to creep illegally into supposed havens like the United States and Europe, they should be banding together to overthrow their governments and set up regimes responsive to their needs and wants. It's been said that a people gets the government it deserves, and I believe that is more or less true. I certainly believe that we Americans, as the (to quote George Carlin) "weak, unimaginative, frightened people" we have become, deserve the intrusive, overbearing government we now have.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

Edward Abbey, one of my all-time favorite authors, said that we should turn back illegal aliens but hand them a rifle and tell them to finish up the revolution.

My man Donald Driver

(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷

Cheesey
Preferred Member

15 years ago

#32

Cheesey, you'd make an amazing writer for propagandic speeches.

"Rockmolder" wrote:

Well, i don't believe in being "politically correct", i believe in being honest.
If you come out and say exactly what you mean, people can't say "I didn't understand your point."
So i make it clear what I'm saying.
I don't do it to be mean, i do it so there is NO way someone can twist what i mean into something else.
Believe me, i am NOT against people from other countries coming here to live.
IF they do it LEGALLY. Otherwise they should stay the hell out of the United States.
We have laws on that for a REASON. And it's to protect everyone born here or who FOLLOWED THE LAWS and did it right. Is it fair to those that worked hard to earn their citizenship LEGALLY to just allow law breakers to stay here? I don't think so.

"Cheesey" wrote:

I don't like illegal immigrants. They're illegal for a reason.

Point I was trying to make is that you just say that lefties want them here, and you can't do them any harm, and they want to hug them and what not.

I consider myself more on the political left side than the right side and I'm not a fan of illegal immigrants. I doubt most 'lefties' want their country flooeded with illegal immigrants. Or any person, for that matter.

"Rockmolder" wrote:

Then you don't listen to the "lefties" here then.
Let me put it this way........i have never met a conservative, or "right winger" that wanted ANY illegals here. I have ONLY heard "lefties" spout that it's not "fair" to kick them out of the country.
So on the right, you have hardly ANY one that wants law breakers to have a free ride to break laws that we made for a REASON, and those on the left, not ALL on the left, but a big enough amount of them that we bend over backwards to not "offend" them that feel we "owe" these law breakers something.
If it wasn't those on the left that keep fighting for the law breakers, we would be able to take action against the people that should NOT be in our country.

RaiderPride
Senior Member

15 years ago

#33

Halloween Costumes...

This one made me laugh... Even though I am Catholic.

Check out the priest costume... With a little boy giving him a hummer.

http://www.theginblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/halloween-priest.jpg

""People Will Probably Never Remember What You Said, And May Never Remember What You Did. However, People Will Always Remember How You Made Them Feel."

Dulak
Veteran Member

15 years ago

#34

"RaiderPride" wrote:

hey raider - you missed my post near the begining of the thread - talked about the exact same costume (got a kick out of it)

Gravedigga
Registered

15 years ago

#35

Legal citizens do all of that as well. Bankruptcy laws were changed because so many had abused them by accumulating massive amounts of debt and then using their get-out-of-debt free card.

Hospitals can't turn away anyone in need of care, nor would I want them to. The system is abused enough as it is with people receiving 6 figure operations for me to care too much about someone taking up a bed for a night.

I apologize if I'm playing Devil's Advocate too much, but it's funny to me that people attribute a systemic recession to the lowest rung of the ladder.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:

Legal citizens, you said it. Legal citizens who have to deal with the consequences of ripping off AMERICAN banks with bad credit. These illegals dont give 2 shits. They just go back to their country. They dont have to deal with the repercussions of bad credit or bankruptcy. Maybe you're just not exposed to it or haven't been too much but I have. I've seen many do it and some were friends. From my experience, they're good people but are a drain on our economy.

--------------------------------------------

A wise man once said
---------------------------------------------
You are weak, pathetic and immature..............I would have d

Gravedigga
Registered

15 years ago

#36

Oh yea, one other thing, they don't pay taxes. Lol, why should they.

--------------------------------------------

A wise man once said
---------------------------------------------
You are weak, pathetic and immature..............I would have d

Cheesey
Preferred Member

15 years ago

#37

That another problem. They take from the pot, and put nothing back. And what reason is there for them to do anything to become legal, when they KNOW no one is trying to prosecute them and deport them?
There's no incentive to change, or for new people coming over the boarder to do it legally.
As long as there is no consequences, why bother with the legalities?

If you put laws on the books, then do NOTHING to enforce them, no one will obey them.
Pretty easy, if you ask me.

MassPackersFan
Member

15 years ago

#38

Cheesey, you'd make an amazing writer for propagandic speeches.

"Cheesey" wrote:

"Rockmolder" wrote:

"Cheesey" wrote:

"Rockmolder" wrote:

I'm not arguing about fairness or unfairness. All I'm saying is that a) it would be near impossible to kick them out, and b) it would have negative consequences that people love to ignore. Not ALL the consequences would be negative, obviously.

Another thing... is it impossible to have a conversation like this without dropping the names and labels on people? Or is it important for you to put people into a box marked "lefties" so you feel more comfortable about dissenting/diverse opinions?

MassPackersFan
Member

15 years ago

#39

"Gravedigga" wrote:

"MassPackersFan" wrote:

Hey, it goes without saying that illegal immigrants ripping off the system is not a good thing. I'm not arguing that. I'm just pointing out that they also serve as a crutch to certain aspects of our economy as well, not to mention the pure logistical nightmare of what you're suggesting the solution is.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

15 years ago

#40

Mass, i'm sorry that "labels" offend you. Thats not my intent. I use them because it make it clear which group i'm speaking of. Fact is, the MAJORITY of people that think the illegal aliens breaking the law are people that are on the left, or what would be called "liberals". Very few on the "right", or "conservatives" think thats fine.
When you are talking face to face, it's easier to make points then the time you have to try to write a few comments.
And, i bet you know which people i mean when i use those "labels". Just as people label me a "righty" or "conservative." I myself don't mind being labeled, cause it pretty much sums up the way i think.
If it quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck....so why not call it so?

Important Information:

The PACKERSHOME uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. More Details Close

Fan Shout

Zero2Cool (15h) : Packers LT Jordan Morgan did not allow a single pressure across 23 pass-blocking snaps vs. Jets last night, per PFF

Mucky Tundra (18h) : With buckeye and the reasonable couple, we're currently sitting at 10

buckeyepackfan (19h) : Just posted to re-up on our FFL.

Zero2Cool (10-Aug) : If healthy after, then thats all I care. Well, no drops would be nice

wpr (10-Aug) : I made it through the 1st Q.

dfosterf (10-Aug) : Just gotta figure out how.

dfosterf (10-Aug) : Could have been a worse start, so there is that.

beast (10-Aug) : Yeah, someone tell the Packers football season has started, seems like they weren't ready for it

Mucky Tundra (10-Aug) : Sooooooo many penalties

Mucky Tundra (10-Aug) : It may only be preseason, but this game is a trip to the dentist

Zero2Cool (10-Aug) : Packers do bad -- FREAK OUT!!!!!!

Zero2Cool (10-Aug) : Packers do good -- eh only preseason

dfosterf (10-Aug) : Well that half was fun

Zero2Cool (10-Aug) : Great, zayne is down

Zero2Cool (9-Aug) : 13 minutes away from kickkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkoffff

Zero2Cool (9-Aug) : Had Celebration of Life for my uncle up north. wicked rain hope it dont come south

Mucky Tundra (9-Aug) : THE GREEN BAY PACKERS ARE PLAYING FOOTBALL TONIGHT!!!!!! THIS IS NOT A DRILL!!!!

Zero2Cool (9-Aug) : Woo-hoo

TheKanataThrilla (9-Aug) : NFL Network is broadcasting the game tonight, but not in Canada. Not sure why as no local television is showing the game.

beast (8-Aug) : But the Return from IR designations had to be applied by the 53 man cutdown.

beast (8-Aug) : It's a new rule, so it's not clear, but my understanding was that they could be IR'd at any time

Mucky Tundra (8-Aug) : *had to be IRed at 53

Mucky Tundra (8-Aug) : beast, I thought the designate return from IR players had to be IR at cutdowns to 53, not before

beast (8-Aug) : It's a brand new rule, either last season or this season, prior, all pre-season IRs were done for the season

beast (8-Aug) : But the Packers would have to use one for their return from IR spots on him, when they cut down to 53.

beast (8-Aug) : I think the NFL recently changed the IR rules, so maybe the season might not be over for OL Glover.

Zero2Cool (8-Aug) : Packers star Howton, first NFLPA prez, dies at 95 😔

dfosterf (8-Aug) : Apparently it is too complicated for several to follow your simple instructions, but I digress

dfosterf (8-Aug) : Zero- Did you see what I posted about Voice of Reason and his wife? She posted over at fleaflicker that they are both "In"

Zero2Cool (7-Aug) : Well, not crazy, it makes sense. Crazy I didn't notice/find it earlier

Zero2Cool (7-Aug) : it's crazy how one stored procedure to get data bogged everything down for speed here

dfosterf (7-Aug) : to herd cats or goldfish without a bowl. They reminded me of the annual assembly of our fantasy league

dfosterf (7-Aug) : out on a field trip, outfitting them with little yellow smocks. Most of the little folk were well behaved, but several were like trying

dfosterf (7-Aug) : Yesterday my wife and I spent the afternoon on the waterfront here in Alexandria, Va. A daycare company took about 15 three/four year olds

wpr (7-Aug) : seems faster. yay

dfosterf (7-Aug) : Wife of reason posted on the in/out thread on fleaflicker that both she and vor are in

Zero2Cool (7-Aug) : This page was generated in 0.135 seconds.

Mucky Tundra (7-Aug) : Tbh, I can never tell the difference in speed unless it's completely shitting the bed

Zero2Cool (7-Aug) : Sure does feel like site is more snappy

Zero2Cool (6-Aug) : I thought that was the Lions OL

Mucky Tundra (6-Aug) : Travis Glover placed on IR; seasons over for him

Zero2Cool (6-Aug) : found bad sql in database, maybe site faster now?

dfosterf (5-Aug) : I'm going to call that a good move.

Zero2Cool (4-Aug) : Packers sign CB Corey Ballentine

Zero2Cool (4-Aug) : I'm not sure how to kill the draft order just yet so it's not so confusing.

Mucky Tundra (4-Aug) : *to be able

Mucky Tundra (4-Aug) : and because it's not a dynasty league (which makes a lot more sense to be ability to trade picks)

Mucky Tundra (4-Aug) : Oh I know; I was just exploring and it blew my mind that you could trade picks because of the whole reordering thing

Mucky Tundra (4-Aug) : Zero, I think I preferred my offer: your 1st for my 15th rounder

Zero2Cool (4-Aug) : Keep in mind, we do a draft reorder once all members locked in

Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2025 Packers Schedule

Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM

LIONS

Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM

COMMANDERS

Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM

Browns

Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM

Cowboys

Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM

BENGALS

Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM

Cardinals

Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM

Steelers

Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM

PANTHERS

Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM

EAGLES

Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM

Giants

Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM

VIKINGS

Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM

Lions

Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM

BEARS

Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM

Broncos

Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM

Bears

Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM

RAVENS

Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM

Vikings