Stevetarded
15 years ago
I don't give 2 shits how he "supposedly" looks in practice. If he makes the team it means he gave sufficient effort according to the Coaches, whose opinion is the only one that really matters. At this point I am skeptical that he will be healthy come week 1 but if he spends the preseason tearing shit up who cares what he looked like the first week of training camp.

The fact is Harrell has a better shot of making the team than some random Joe Schmoe off the UDFA scrap heap. Cutting him now to replace him with someone whose only purpose is a "camp body" is a terrible idea.
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Pack93z
15 years ago
Has Harrell given us any more than say

Malone, Alfred
or

Daniel Muir during that time?

Nope.. so a "camp body" that makes the roster is arguably just as valuable for a ton less coin and risk.

Again.. if he is given effort and observers are incorrect.. awesome.. if not.. kick his ass off my team.. lol.
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dhpackr
15 years ago

I don't give 2 shits how he "supposedly" looks in practice. If he makes the team it means he gave sufficient effort according to the Coaches, whose opinion is the only one that really matters. At this point I am skeptical that he will be healthy come week 1 but if he spends the preseason tearing shit up who cares what he looked like the first week of training camp.

The fact is Harrell has a better shot of making the team than some random Joe Schmoe off the UDFA scrap heap. Cutting him now to replace him with someone whose only purpose is a "camp body" is a terrible idea.

"Stevetarded" wrote:



ummm... i'm talking about replacing him with the 2010 2nd round draft pick

u no the guy that is 6' 3" weighs 300lbs Ran the 40-yard dash in 4.89 seconds. Vertical jump was 33 inches, broad jump 9-5. Bench press 31 times; 33 -inch arms; 10 -inch hands; scored 20 on the Wonderlic

not Joe Schmoe off the UDFA scrap heap
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Stevetarded
15 years ago

Has Harrell given us any more than say

Malone, Alfred
or

Daniel Muir during that time?

Nope.. so a "camp body" that makes the roster is arguably just as valuable for a ton less coin and risk.

Again.. if he is given effort and observers are incorrect.. awesome.. if not.. kick his ass off my team.. lol.

"pack93z" wrote:



The coaches have him working ahead of those guys so obviously he has been giving them more. I'm pretty sure he took more snaps on family night than those guys. Anybody signed now has virtually no shot at making the roster so no they are not just as valuable.
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Stevetarded
15 years ago

I don't give 2 shits how he "supposedly" looks in practice. If he makes the team it means he gave sufficient effort according to the Coaches, whose opinion is the only one that really matters. At this point I am skeptical that he will be healthy come week 1 but if he spends the preseason tearing shit up who cares what he looked like the first week of training camp.

The fact is Harrell has a better shot of making the team than some random Joe Schmoe off the UDFA scrap heap. Cutting him now to replace him with someone whose only purpose is a "camp body" is a terrible idea.

"dhpackr" wrote:



ummm... i'm talking about replacing him with the 2010 2nd round draft pick

u no the guy that is 6' 3" weighs 300lbs Ran the 40-yard dash in 4.89 seconds. Vertical jump was 33 inches, broad jump 9-5. Bench press 31 times; 33 -inch arms; 10 -inch hands; scored 20 on the Wonderlic

not Joe Schmoe off the UDFA scrap heap

"Stevetarded" wrote:



I am talking about the people saying to cut him now to sign some random. I like Neal a hell of a lot more than Harrell. I don't see how Harrell being on the team during training camp has any effect on Neal whatsoever.
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DakotaT
15 years ago


ummm... i'm talking about replacing him with the 2010 2nd round draft pick

u no the guy that is 6' 3" weighs 300lbs Ran the 40-yard dash in 4.89 seconds. Vertical jump was 33 inches, broad jump 9-5. Bench press 31 times; 33 -inch arms; 10 -inch hands; scored 20 on the Wonderlic

not Joe Schmoe off the UDFA scrap heap

"dhpackr" wrote:



Good luck with that second round pick DH. A reasonable GM would offer 20 lbs of brats and 2 cases of Schlitz for the rights to Harrell.

I said at the beginning of training camp that anything we got from Harrell this year is gravy.

The problem with cutting Harrell is that you don't want to give up on a guy with those measurables you listed without exhausting all efforts, just to land on another team and make a comeback ala Jimmy Kennedy for the Queens.

Part the problem Harrell has with us Packer fans is that he is connected to the time that we had Favre and Harrell was not what Favre wanted drafted.

What I do know about Harrell is that he has to have talent that our coaches can see that most of us Joe Schmoes don't know about. I don't think our organization likes pissing money down their leg.
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macbob
15 years ago
I will say I wouldn't bet money on Harrell making the team (I probably wouldn't keep him over Neal, etc if I were coach/GM).

When he was drafted, I didn't like using a #1 pick on someone injured who had missed most of his last season in college.

But that said, I would give him this last opportunity to show he's worth keeping, and IMO you can't do that without seeing his performance in a game-type situation.

With that said, here's what Mike Vandermause for the GBP-Gazette had to say in a chat session yesterday:

http://packersnews.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100811/PKR01/308100005/Mike-Vandermause-chat-Who-ll-make-the-team- 

As for Harrell, the best I can say for him is that he's still healthy 10 days into camp. Beyond that, I thought Jarius Wynn looked better in drills yesterday at practice. Maybe I'm completely off on this, but I don't sense an urgency in Harrell. For a guy who has basically done nothing for three years, I would think he'd be champing at the bit in every single drill. Maybe it's his personality. Maybe I'm not seeing the whole picture. But right now, I'd be surprised if he made the final roster."

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dfosterf
15 years ago

There has been a bizarre alignment of stars apparently. I'm finding myself in agreement with dhpackr!

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



lol

agreed.

I'm gonna go ahead and plus one him, and as an added bonus, actually hit the applause button, lol
Pack93z
15 years ago
So none of these available players have a better shot at giving us positive production than Harrell if he isn't giving a full effort?


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Stevetarded
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obviously not
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