mi_keys
12 years ago
Porky,

Out of curiosity, how do you come up with your projections? Or is that a secret?
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zombieslayer
12 years ago





You don't think opposing coaches are going to break down our film and make adjustments taking things away?



Having a weapon that can be brought inside and is capable forcing them to match up a backer or safety... but also can be split out thus pulling that backer/safety into space. Thus forcing the defense either to adjust or allow Finley to go one on one with an inferior cover guy; and that isn't considered and important advantage and wrinkle that will drive and bust a lot of coverage schemes to crap.



Sometimes I think we forget that we were a a wildcard team and hardly dominated the entire season or played consistent for that matter. Sure we overcame injuries.. but even early we were a dominate team. My point the difference between losing and winning at this level isn't that great.. you take every advantage you can get and exploit the other team.



We are Superbowl champions.. but we are hardly a dominate consistent team that doesn't have room for improvement and growth. I surely hope that we allow ourselves to be comfortable that we won it last year and we don't need to improve.. otherwise we will be on the outside looking in at the Superbowl next season.



Sorry for the rant.. but damn there are so many areas that if improved, would make us such a stronger team.. consistent team. We got hot and peaked at the right time.. this coming season I want to dominate. We have the talent and coaches to do so.. so use every resource we can and pummel the opposition.



Excluding pieces and facets of the team and game aren't going to make us more dominate.. Finley would be a big piece if used properly and healthy.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



Don't apologize for the rant. That's what the internet is for.

I'm coming from an entirely different viewpoint. I think Finley's a solid player, just injury prone. So, I'm not at all doubting his ABILITY. I'm doubting him staying on the field for all 19 games this upcoming season.
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The_Claymaker
12 years ago

I do these for every team and a ton of players. I haven't got to Driver yet.

My initial projections have him under 50 receptions though and he would finish fourth on the team in just about every receiving category. Driver is among my favorite Packers, but Jordy performed about the same as Driver a year ago. Plus, Nelson has improved in every year he’s been in the league.

Through the same span, Driver has regressed.

Originally Posted by: porky88 



I wouldn't be surprised in DD was fourth in receiving yards. Finley and Jennings will easily outperform him, and I think his stats will be close to Jordy's so Jordy could have more but as I said I think they will be close. DD was beat up last year, if he's healthy I would think he could at least repeat his stats.
Pack93z
12 years ago

Don't apologize for the rant. That's what the internet is for.



I'm coming from an entirely different viewpoint. I think Finley's a solid player, just injury prone. So, I'm not at all doubting his ABILITY. I'm doubting him staying on the field for all 19 games this upcoming season.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 





My point is simply this.. just because we won last season without him, doesn't mean we don't need him to play a role upon the 2011 Packers.



Just like our offense needs to continue to evolve so that we can pull out any phase or approach to counter what the opposition is doing to defeat them.. dominate them and crush their very souls.



That said.. as long as we stay a defensive minded team.. we can play with anyone.. but I want in 2011 is to rip the oppositions virtual hearts out and grind them into submission. :)

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zombieslayer
12 years ago





My point is simply this.. just because we won last season without him, doesn't mean we don't need him to play a role upon the 2011 Packers.



Just like our offense needs to continue to evolve so that we can pull out any phase or approach to counter what the opposition is doing to defeat them.. dominate them and crush their very souls.



That said.. as long as we stay a defensive minded team.. we can play with anyone.. but I want in 2011 is to rip the oppositions virtual hearts out and grind them into submission. :)

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



I understand your point and I agree with it. The more weapons, the better. The more weapons, the more options we have.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

I understand your point and I agree with it. The more weapons, the better. The more weapons, the more options we have.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



Especially if the Packers get a good running game, that will seal the deal on successfully repeating as World Champions.
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Rockmolder
12 years ago

It seems like you and I are amongst the only people here who aren't on the Finley bandwagon. I think he's a heck of a player, but has a history of being injury prone. I don't have my hopes up of him playing a full season.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



And being a total jackass.

I really get the feeling that, if there'll be locker room problems, they'll be coming from that young man. Or at least something that he's involved in.
Stevetarded
12 years ago
I can't help but feel that the forcing it to Finley thing is being a tad overblown. The only game where that really happened was in Philadelphia and it was the 1st game of the season. I think the idea primarily stems from the play where Rodgers threw it to him in triple coverage and it got intercepted but that was just 1 play in 1 game.

Yes the offense eventually improved over what it started as but you can normally expect an offense to evolve and improve throughout the course of a season no matter who the WRs are. I think our offense would have been a lot better throughout the year with Finley than it was without him. We probably wouldn't have had as much trouble with Chicago both times at the end of the year. Having Finley is a huge part of being able to attack that cover 2 defense.

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The_Claymaker
12 years ago

I can't help but feel that the forcing it to Finley thing is being a tad overblown. The only game where that really happened was in Philadelphia and it was the 1st game of the season. I think the idea primarily stems from the play where Rodgers threw it to him in triple coverage and it got intercepted but that was just 1 play in 1 game.

Yes the offense eventually improved over what it started as but you can normally expect an offense to evolve and improve throughout the course of a season no matter who the WRs are. I think our offense would have been a lot better throughout the year with Finley than it was without him. We probably wouldn't have had as much trouble with Chicago both times at the end of the year. Having Finley is a huge part of being able to attack that cover 2 defense.

Originally Posted by: Stevetarded 



I think it's way overblown. There seem to be Finley haters here. I would probably put him as one of the top 5 most talented players on our roster.
Nonstopdrivel
12 years ago
And yet again, the word "hater" is thrown around so lightly. Why is that word so popular these day?
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