Wow. An economic issue we differ 100% on.

Let's take software for instance. They started outsourcing software jobs heavily in 2000. Industry completely crashed in 2002. Didn't recover until 2009 when Americans realized that hey, American software people are actually smarter than anyone else in the world for software and started hiring Americans again. Now once again, it's a good industry to be in because outsourcing isn't as prevalent.

I'm not anti-outsourcing per se. In small amounts, outsourcing actually is a good thing because it creates foreign markets. But the tricky part is you cannot outsource more jobs than you create. When that happens, you get a crash.

Now back to the uniforms - the Olympics are a joke. If we wanted to be realistic, they'd all play nekkid. (History folks will get this; everyone else, it will go over your head).

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 

Just sayin' [palm] You SAY you want quality, but you PAY for crap, damn the nation, damn the workers, damn the corporations, etc.

You are a LIAR when you have to whip out the wallet.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 

Who is the "you" you're referring to or is it referencing Americans in general?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

We whine about our salary.
We whine about our working conditions.
We sue when WE hurt ourselves at the workplace.

Government steps in to 'save' the day and WE get institutions like OSHA, safety regulations and get a minimum wage.

Business has to pay their employees more and they have to employ a team of 'safety' personnel to ensure safe working conditions.

And to offset the finances accrued, businesses raise the price of their product and/or service.

Why would a business pay American employee's $7.50/hr and risk being sued over injury when they can have their product produced overseas with less worry of litigation and drastically cheaper labor costs?


A watch manufacturer has decided to produce its new watch in China and USA.
Made in U.S.A. = $50
Made in China = $14.99

Which one are you going to buy?
Which one are the welfare leachers going to buy?


See the vicious cycle are bitching, our greed and our whining produces?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Why do we defend "made in the USA", as if that denotes quality upon the product? I'm working retail in my old age, and just about every customer I see is a fat-ass-lazy mother-fucker way over his/her head in the project he/she is planning...and chances are decent that they actually build shit (a very small piece- ironically) - we build shit here-in-Pennsylvania + too stupid to do anything else (OK that's editorializing, lol) I get to load it, as they are incapable of doing so... That project don't look good to me... I do this all day. Made in the USA usually means made by some fat lazy fuck that is pissed at his/her awful job. God-forbid it's a union job...

I envision lean, mean and competent minions in China/elsewhere stuffin' that very cheap cardboard and realize that we are totally fucked as long as American fools cling to the concept of self-entitlement vs. "the man", whatever "man" they got. Fucking snot-nosed-foolish union-backin' IDIOTS- while we are getting our ASS TOTALLY KICKED in the actual marketplace, as defined by your purchases...

Just sayin' [palm] You SAY you want quality, but you PAY for crap, damn the nation, damn the workers, damn the corporations, etc. YOU WANT CHEAP.

AMERICAN PUBLICLY HELD CORPORATIONS WORK FOR THE STOCKHOLDERS. STOCKHOLDERS. NOT YOU. NOT YOU as an employee. GET IT? NOT you. If you don't like it, go own one, and stay private.


You are a LIAR when you have to whip out the wallet. My life's experinces-

If John Deere made it, buy it.
If Honda made it, buy it.
If Toyota made it, buy it.
If Echo made it, buy it.

If it isn't on that list, you better do your research.

I'm willing to listen. You got someone that should be on the list, let me know-- My other list is as follows: (Things I hate)

Wind
Weight
Rust
Springs
Coat-hangars in plastic trash bags
Fat-black-women-that-have-been-drinking at wedding receptions

Originally Posted by: dfosterf