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DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

8 years ago

Honestly it took a while for Clay to get back into the zone from the OLB position. I saw him look a bit aimless for a while and then tightened down on that last KC drive. The communication breakdowns with the younger players happened all game. They were just more noticeable later on.

The bright side: Our tackling as an overall defensive unit is steadily improving. I think we can all agree that this is a major positive for the team.

Thomas took his lumps at ILB in the 2nd half; A good learning experience for him. I have measured hopes for that guy. He definitely seemed overcome with emotion in his post-game interview. You can see how much the opportunity meant to him.

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Tezzy
Senior Member

8 years ago

#22

Sigh, not surprised this topic was started. I am too young to be pissing and moaning about "style" points with victories. Going to go continue enjoying the fact that the Packers are 3-0 instead of 1-2 to start the season. Go Pack Go.

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sschind
Senior Member

8 years ago

#23

Totally. Honestly, and I know no fan wants to hear this, but with that lead, I think they were doing some evaluating on defense. There were quality reps there for a couple guys. In the NFL, it is trial by fire.

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules

Personally I didn't think the defensive performance in the second half was all that big of a deal. I got the feeling that if they would have really wanted to they could have shut them down. It could be that they were doing some evaluating and if that's the case then I say more power to them. How well can you expect your second and third stringers to be the next man up if needed if they don't get experience in real games when the opportunity presents itself. That and the more stuff you do in this game the more the next teams have to look for.

texaspackerbacker
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#24

I think it easy to try too hard in NFL. On D, you can blitz too much rather then playing a conservative vanilla D or over-commit on run plays leaving gaps in the D.

I think we are in agreement on the game though :)

Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb

You can play a "conservative vanilla D" when you have DOMINANT personnel - Seattle would be an example of that. When you don't, you need to scheme and compensate, as Capers is so good at. You want to know what would happen to a defense that played plain vanilla and didn't have great personnel? Just look at the Packers situation over most of the several decades prior to Capers. With a few exceptions, it wasn't a pretty sight; And those exceptions were generally the few years when we did have better personnel - when Reggie White was here for example.

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nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

#25

Originally Posted by: sschind

If they hadn't been doing this repeatedly for a decade, including missing the SB because of it last year, then MAYBE I would agree they could have pulled out of it.

This teams needs to prove they can put other teams away. Consistently.

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PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#26

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

They didn't miss the SB because of it. The defense got the turnover the team needed. Offense and St didn't close the deal.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

8 years ago

#27

They didn't miss the SB because of it. The defense got the turnover the team needed. Offense and St didn't close the deal.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins

I think the Packers snared something like four interceptions that game, right? I think we got a fumble too.

The defense wasn't the problem. The offensive lack of executing and settling for FG after FG is what hurt the Packers along with failing to muster out a couple first downs in the 4th quarter drives.

Offense lost the game, not the Defense. Special Teams had a chance to WIN the game, but they didn't lose the game.

DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#28

Exactly. It was a total team loss. You can tell Aaron worked really hard this offseason and Mike has made some big decisions that he feels will make the offense and special teams more efficient. They are still working out the kinks, but you can already see the fruits of that labor.

It also speaks to Aaron's initial total deflation after the Jordy injury, just with that total knowledge of all the work he and the staff were doing after how close they came the season before. The goal is to find ways to win and not ways to lose. You get the sense that all three phases of our team are steadily improving and finding ways to grind the games out.

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nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

#29

That was overall team wide self shitting.

Mike needs to get their heads together. I do think they're on the right track.

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texaspackerbacker
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#30

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

As I have said, "putting another team away" amounts to "style points", and while it is annoying to all of us when they play like crap late in games, etc., a win is a win is a win. And that's a helluva lot more than most fans of most teams have on a consistent basis.

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